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Kyle Dubas not returning as GM

Started by CarltonTheBear, May 19, 2023, 10:58:11 AM

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Bill_Berg

Quote from: L K on May 29, 2023, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on May 29, 2023, 12:24:48 PM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 29, 2023, 12:02:20 PMThe longer this goes the less likely Treliving is their absolute #1 target... right?

It feels like a lot of the "insiders" latched on to him as a possibility before Dubas was even let go, and they're just sticking with it. But, who knows?

At this point Shanahan should just stick his neck out and be the GM instead of playing puppet master crap. 

I wonder if the press conference aspect is why he doesn't want the GM role. His presser about Dubas was ridiculous, imagine what it would be like explaining a trade dealine or a draft? Or anything?

L K

Quote from: Bill_Berg_is_less_sad on May 29, 2023, 01:52:02 PM
Quote from: L K on May 29, 2023, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on May 29, 2023, 12:24:48 PM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 29, 2023, 12:02:20 PMThe longer this goes the less likely Treliving is their absolute #1 target... right?

It feels like a lot of the "insiders" latched on to him as a possibility before Dubas was even let go, and they're just sticking with it. But, who knows?

At this point Shanahan should just stick his neck out and be the GM instead of playing puppet master crap. 

I wonder if the press conference aspect is why he doesn't want the GM role. His presser about Dubas was ridiculous, imagine what it would be like explaining a trade dealine or a draft? Or anything?

Which is kind of ironic because we fired Dubas because of his media conference according to Shanahan.  If he wants to play GM he should face the limelight.

archie holdsworth

I could (maybe) live with Brad Treliving as GM. He's probably a guy who knows how the NHL works.

Just to project a scenario that might not play out, maybe he has paid his dues and is now coming into his perfect situation, not unlike what Paul Maurice seems to be doing. It's hard to assign credit when there are so many random elements that go into success in hockey. But, if it's working for you, it's working.

I have a feeling that Shanahan might be waiting to see what happens with the Vegas Dallas series.  George McPhee would be an excellent GM, if he becomes available.

mr grieves

Quote from: archie holdsworth on May 29, 2023, 03:19:26 PMI could (maybe) live with Brad Treliving as GM. He's probably a guy who knows how the NHL works.

Just to project a scenario that might not play out, maybe he has paid his dues and is now coming into his perfect situation, not unlike what Paul Maurice seems to be doing. It's hard to assign credit when there are so many random elements that go into success in hockey. But, if it's working for you, it's working.

I have a feeling that Shanahan might be waiting to see what happens with the Vegas Dallas series.  George McPhee would be an excellent GM, if he becomes available.

Here's hoping... now that Dubas has found his new home, I sort of feel that the Penguins added an identifiable skill set that'll help their team given where it is (I.e. Dubai's talent was in supplementing a core with pretty effective, cost efficient bargain buys using every last nickel at his disposal). I'm not so confident that the Leafs are getting anything as useful to what/where they are in Treviling. But I only know him through the recent reporting.

I will say, after the last week of reporting and pressers, it'll be something if Dubas goes once he starts talking about breaking up the Core 4 with some big-swing trades and he's replaced by a guy who made trades like that because he's a compliant employee adept at carrying out the strategy of whoever signs his cheques.

4EVRLEAFAN

Pens will win the Cup before we do. If we ever do...lol

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Quote from: 4EVRLEAFAN on June 02, 2023, 05:18:45 PMPens will win the Cup before we do. If we ever do...lol

Toronto won numerous Cups before Pittsburgh was ever in the league.

History didn't begin the day you were born.

4EVRLEAFAN

Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on June 02, 2023, 10:06:20 PM
Quote from: 4EVRLEAFAN on June 02, 2023, 05:18:45 PMPens will win the Cup before we do. If we ever do...lol

Toronto won numerous Cups before Pittsburgh was ever in the league.

History didn't begin the day you were born.

Sorry if we ever win the cup "again" LOL

Significantly Insignificant

Every time I listen to an Arkells song, a tear comes to my eye.
"We can't change what's done, we can only move on." - Arthur Morgan

Zee

Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on June 02, 2023, 10:06:20 PM
Quote from: 4EVRLEAFAN on June 02, 2023, 05:18:45 PMPens will win the Cup before we do. If we ever do...lol

Toronto won numerous Cups before Pittsburgh was ever in the league.

History didn't begin the day you were born.

The Leafs have won 0 Cups since Pittsburgh has been in the league though

Kaberle15

Seing all the moves that Dubas did for the Pens since his new role there...

I miss you Kyle.
Go Leafs Go!!!

OldTimeHockey

I'm looking at his moves? Other than the trade yesterday, which one is really making you miss him being around?

I know which Leaf ones don't make me miss him.




Bender

Quote from: Kaberle15 on August 07, 2023, 08:03:33 AMSeing all the moves that Dubas did for the Pens since his new role there...

I miss you Kyle.

I really don't see the appeal.
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

Peter D.

Quote from: Kaberle15 on August 07, 2023, 08:03:33 AMSeing all the moves that Dubas did for the Pens since his new role there...

I miss you Kyle.

For someone who is highly touted for his drafting ability, he sure loves frittering away 1st round picks (surprisingly more than I'd have expected him to).

I get the move for Karlsson, but just like he did here, I don't think the moves he makes/made help put the team(s) over the top.

I think the lustre wore off a long time ago.

Will be interesting to see how he does from a distance with all his moves no longer seen through blue and white glasses in which some applauded every move he made.

Significantly Insignificant

You know, Shanahan really missed an awesome way to tell the story of the last days of Kyle with the Leafs.  In that awkward press conference, he could have just broken into song:

He called me up from a pay phone
I said, "Hang tight, I can drive you home"
I pulled on up and with a Southern accent
I offered you my Dad's leather jacket

When times were tough, in the worst years
We never knew how to interfere
And now you're back, and just unpacking
Those bruised-up takers, you keep attracting
"We can't change what's done, we can only move on." - Arthur Morgan

Zee

Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on August 29, 2023, 08:52:35 AMYou know, Shanahan really missed an awesome way to tell the story of the last days of Kyle with the Leafs.  In that awkward press conference, he could have just broken into song:

He called me up from a pay phone
I said, "Hang tight, I can drive you home"
I pulled on up and with a Southern accent
I offered you my Dad's leather jacket

When times were tough, in the worst years
We never knew how to interfere
And now you're back, and just unpacking
Those bruised-up takers, you keep attracting

From the time Dubas joined the Pens I just had a feeling in my bones that the Leafs and Pens will meet in the playoffs this season.  That's how the ultimate battle will play out.