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R2, G5: Panthers @ Maple Leafs - May 12th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590

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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Quote from: azzurri63 on May 12, 2023, 09:41:57 PMCraig Button had it right the other day after game 3. Listening to Marner post game makes me wanna puke. Can't admit for what you get paid you haven't sucked and like Craig said not only him and it's not a one off. They haven't shown up in the playoffs for 4-5 years. Time for a change and like I said if there isn't any with the core I will remove myself from this site and make a few of you happy. Soft bunch who excel in the regular season but different animal in the playoffs and some of these guys don't have what it takes. We have wasted a great opportunity the last few years. Overhaul is needed and hopefully comes.

Marner and Matthews aren't going anywhere.  Tavares too.  Nylander doesn't deserve to, but they need a better defense so if the right defenseman became available I could see it.

azzurri63

Quote from: dekedastardly on May 12, 2023, 09:42:59 PMOverall this team is just too GD soft

Said it a thousand times but funny thing is some don't think so. But each year we are always back in the same position and questioning the teams toughness. That and lack of scoring again.

Nik

Nobody can say they didn't compete or show real heart here. Tough loss, tough series. Ran into hot goaltending.

We'll get 'em next year.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

That was a really, really good game.  We kind of got screwed but really Bobrovsky is the hero.


Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Quote from: Nik on May 12, 2023, 09:45:39 PMNobody can say they didn't compete or show real heart here. Tough loss, tough series. Ran into hot goaltending.

We'll get 'em next year.

I think the likeliest move is a new coach.  Not sure if Dubas will on board with that so he may go too.

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Quote from: azzurri63 on May 12, 2023, 09:44:47 PM
Quote from: dekedastardly on May 12, 2023, 09:42:59 PMOverall this team is just too GD soft

Said it a thousand times but funny thing is some don't think so. But each year we are always back in the same position and questioning the teams toughness. That and lack of scoring again.

How can you possibly question their toughness in this series?  They went toe to toe.  They stuffed Tkachuk pretty much.  They had all kinds of big hits.  Toughness wasn't the problem.  Scoring, or lack thereof, absolutely.

azzurri63

Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on May 12, 2023, 09:44:07 PM
Quote from: azzurri63 on May 12, 2023, 09:41:57 PMCraig Button had it right the other day after game 3. Listening to Marner post game makes me wanna puke. Can't admit for what you get paid you haven't sucked and like Craig said not only him and it's not a one off. They haven't shown up in the playoffs for 4-5 years. Time for a change and like I said if there isn't any with the core I will remove myself from this site and make a few of you happy. Soft bunch who excel in the regular season but different animal in the playoffs and some of these guys don't have what it takes. We have wasted a great opportunity the last few years. Overhaul is needed and hopefully comes.

Marner and Matthews aren't going anywhere.  Tavares too.  Nylander doesn't deserve to, but they need a better defense so if the right defenseman became available I could see it.

I wouldn't bet on that. If management is smart they need to ship one of them off. Or both. Team has more talent than a lot of teams but what has that got us. SFA. You look at other teams, less talent, more grit and then advance further than us. It doesn't take a team of talent to win it takes players who will do anything to win. These conceded fks can't even admit when they sucked. We've mortgaged a lot of the future and we really aren't any further than prior years. Matthews may be gone after next year and maybe for nothing so send him off get a boatload for him and move on. Marner and his attitude can follow.

BrownRolo

Two goals a game over the past 7 games? That's pathetic anyway you look at it. This team gets goalied too much. It's time to move on from this core.

4EVRLEAFAN

Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on May 12, 2023, 09:47:53 PM
Quote from: azzurri63 on May 12, 2023, 09:44:47 PM
Quote from: dekedastardly on May 12, 2023, 09:42:59 PMOverall this team is just too GD soft

Said it a thousand times but funny thing is some don't think so. But each year we are always back in the same position and questioning the teams toughness. That and lack of scoring again.

How can you possibly question their toughness in this series?  They went toe to toe.  They stuffed Tkachuk pretty much.  They had all kinds of big hits.  Toughness wasn't the problem.  Scoring, or lack thereof, absolutely.

Correct, Bobrovsky was the difference, we need a goalie that's a fact, hopefully Woll grows into a game changer.

Nik

Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on May 12, 2023, 09:47:53 PMHow can you possibly question their toughness in this series?  They went toe to toe.  They stuffed Tkachuk pretty much.  They had all kinds of big hits.  Toughness wasn't the problem.

It's an entirely fact-free analysis. How does a lack of toughness or playoff aptitude explain why O'Reilly, a Conn Smythe winner, wasn't able to get anything going either?

It's just the exact same thing said over and over and over by someone who never lets reality intrude on their complaining.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

gunnar36

Quote from: Nik on May 12, 2023, 09:45:39 PMNobody can say they didn't compete or show real heart here. Tough loss, tough series. Ran into hot goaltending.

We'll get 'em next year.

hmmm Leafs seem to always run into hot goaltending 🤔

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Quote from: azzurri63 on May 12, 2023, 09:49:50 PM
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on May 12, 2023, 09:44:07 PM
Quote from: azzurri63 on May 12, 2023, 09:41:57 PMCraig Button had it right the other day after game 3. Listening to Marner post game makes me wanna puke. Can't admit for what you get paid you haven't sucked and like Craig said not only him and it's not a one off. They haven't shown up in the playoffs for 4-5 years. Time for a change and like I said if there isn't any with the core I will remove myself from this site and make a few of you happy. Soft bunch who excel in the regular season but different animal in the playoffs and some of these guys don't have what it takes. We have wasted a great opportunity the last few years. Overhaul is needed and hopefully comes.

Marner and Matthews aren't going anywhere.  Tavares too.  Nylander doesn't deserve to, but they need a better defense so if the right defenseman became available I could see it.

I wouldn't bet on that. If management is smart they need to ship one of them off. Or both. Team has more talent than a lot of teams but what has that got us. SFA. You look at other teams, less talent, more grit and then advance further than us. It doesn't take a team of talent to win it takes players who will do anything to win. These conceded fks can't even admit when they sucked. We've mortgaged a lot of the future and we really aren't any further than prior years. Matthews may be gone after next year and maybe for nothing so send him off get a boatload for him and move on. Marner and his attitude can follow.


They aren't unloading a Hart winner or a 99-point Selke guy unless and until the players say they want out.

BrownRolo

Also next series will be full of penalties. I guarantee it. All of a sudden the Panthers will magically become a highly penalised team again.

Nik

Quote from: gunnar36 on May 12, 2023, 09:51:21 PMhmmm Leafs seem to always run into hot goaltending 🤔

Yes. Almost as if teams in the playoffs tend to have better than average goaltending.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

L K

Pretty sure Gudas committed two separate infractions on the game winning goal