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Started by hobarth, May 06, 2023, 09:35:35 PM
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Quote from: Rob on May 27, 2023, 11:11:59 AMWhat's every ones acceptable number for Matthews? I would do 8 years $100 million.
Quote from: hobarth on May 30, 2023, 05:12:44 PMI was watching some YouTube today, it has been said by can't remember who that Schenn and O'Rielly were surprised by the locker room dynamics of the Leafs, the room is fractured whereas from all my previous readings TO's team was/is supposedly very close.I don't know how important it is for a team to be close but if what I've seen on YouTube is true, leadership is still an issue as it has been for 20 years.Who was the last person on TO that both the fans and players thought were effective leaders, Killer/Sundin/Roberts?
Quote from: Joe on June 07, 2023, 11:30:56 AMThe only thing I'll say, is look how long it took for Detroit to get their shit together with their core. They were ready to trade Yzerman.
Quote from: L K on June 07, 2023, 12:11:35 PMBig difference with Detroit was there wasn't a cap. 2003-2004 the Red Wings payroll was 77 million against a league average payroll of 44 million. In 98 it was 48 million against a league average of 29 million. The Red Wings had the advantage to keep spending money well above the average team. The salary cap makes sticking with a stationary roster a lot harder if the team isn't successful because its harder to augment around the team.
Quote from: Nik on June 07, 2023, 12:20:32 PMThe idea that the Leafs may need to move a big salary to have more flexibility to rebuild is a fair one
Quote from: herman on June 07, 2023, 01:22:17 PMSkill-wise, I don't think there is anything holding back these 4 from producing in the playoffs; the 'softness' that most people talk about is their generally passive approach to physicality, which I think Treliving has already started to talk about re: personnel and coaching, for which Marner takes the biggest dip.
Quote from: hobarth on June 07, 2023, 10:36:27 PMTO might not be better right away or even next year but TO might have the assets to improve the team enough by the 3rd year to expect better playoff results than we are currently seeing. Since Chytil makes $4.5 mil. per TO would possibly have an extra $5.5 mil. per to spend on a FA since I expect Nylander can expect to be signed for around $10 mil. per. The rebuild while keeping Mitch and Austin would be enhanced by the 3rd year because JT's contract will have expired. Having Nylander's talent level would be nice going into the future but I think St.L. won a Cup with only 2 significant players surrounded by outstanding depth.
Quote from: Nik on June 07, 2023, 02:29:39 PMQuote from: herman on June 07, 2023, 01:22:17 PMSkill-wise, I don't think there is anything holding back these 4 from producing in the playoffs; the 'softness' that most people talk about is their generally passive approach to physicality, which I think Treliving has already started to talk about re: personnel and coaching, for which Marner takes the biggest dip.Well, no. Because we have seen them produce in the playoffs. As we should now just take as a given any good player can run into hot goaltending. But beyond that there's just a more fundamental problem of the talent level of the team. Trade one of Nylander/Marner/Matthews and yes, you're no longer top heavy salary wise but you're also not very good at the top either. You're a deeper team without big talent at the top and the track record of teams like that winning isn't very good. The whole idea that trading one of those three doesn't effectively necessitate a rebuild is the quite frankly insane notion that some team out there is going to be offering up someone who's comparable talent wise but also cheaper but also better suited to playoff hockey.That's a crazy notion itself but it still doesn't solve the longer term issues with depth, defense and goaltending.
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