R1, G5: Lightning @ Maple Leafs - Apr. 27th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590

Guilt Trip · April 27, 2023, 08:57:40 PM

Sammy needs to be better. That's the difference tonight.

bustaheims · April 27, 2023, 08:57:55 PM

Hard to win 4 straight in a series. Two more chances. I say they do it.

Zee · April 27, 2023, 09:05:49 PM

I hate this team

azzurri63 · April 27, 2023, 09:06:14 PM

Quote from: dekedastardly on April 27, 2023, 08:57:13 PM
Quote from: azzurri63 on April 27, 2023, 08:28:45 PMWhen's Murray ready. Tired of seeing Samsonov all over the place. Horrible.

Murray is done. I'd sooner put Woll in

Just talking about that with some friends I would put him in. Samsonov reminds me of past Leaf goalies guaranteed softie every game. That 2nd goal was absolutely putrid. Could have closed his eyes and had his stick on the ice and saved it. Brutal and demoralizing.

Guilt Trip · April 27, 2023, 09:06:24 PM

Bunting in next game for sure. One of the 4th liners out, Bunts up with Matthews and Willy.

Quote from: bustaheims on April 27, 2023, 08:57:55 PMHard to win 4 straight in a series. Two more chances. I say they do it.

Absolutely. They have 2 shots at it.

Guilt Trip · April 27, 2023, 09:07:40 PM

Quote from: Zee on April 27, 2023, 09:05:49 PMI hate this team

Are you not entertained?

azzurri63 · April 27, 2023, 09:07:49 PM

Quote from: Guilt Trip on April 27, 2023, 08:57:40 PMSammy needs to be better. That's the difference tonight.

I wasn't happy with their overall performance can't just turn it on when you're down but that was the difference. Samsonov.

Significantly Insignificant · April 27, 2023, 09:08:46 PM

Yeah, I don't feel as bad as I did in the Montreal series. In that one, I just had this feeling that they were done when they didn't win game 5. Still this is a pretty bad situation to be in. Going back to Tampa, the second best home ice team in the League, with their goalie getting on a roll. And if they lose that they come back home with all the baggage they have always had. I just wish they could have wrapped this up tonight so that we don't have to watch a potential car crash unfold before our eyes.

4EVRLEAFAN · April 27, 2023, 09:15:58 PM

Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on April 27, 2023, 09:08:46 PMYeah, I don't feel as bad as I did in the Montreal series. In that one, I just had this feeling that they were done when they didn't win game 5. Still this is a pretty bad situation to be in. Going back to Tampa, the second best home ice team in the League, with their goalie getting on a roll. And if they lose that they come back home with all the baggage they have always had. I just wish they could have wrapped this up tonight so that we don't have to watch a potential car crash unfold before our eyes.

I'm glad you don't, I have a real bad case of Deja vu right now. Lol

Significantly Insignificant · April 27, 2023, 09:18:35 PM

Quote from: 4EVRLEAFAN on April 27, 2023, 09:15:58 PM
Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on April 27, 2023, 09:08:46 PMYeah, I don't feel as bad as I did in the Montreal series. In that one, I just had this feeling that they were done when they didn't win game 5. Still this is a pretty bad situation to be in. Going back to Tampa, the second best home ice team in the League, with their goalie getting on a roll. And if they lose that they come back home with all the baggage they have always had. I just wish they could have wrapped this up tonight so that we don't have to watch a potential car crash unfold before our eyes.

I'm glad you don't, I have a real bad case of Deja vu right now. Lol

I was just going through the 3-1 blown lead stats for the NHL.

Guilt Trip · April 27, 2023, 09:49:35 PM

Tough spot for Keefe but man doesn't he have to break up Holl and Gio? The only way to do that is sit Holl and that's not without risk because Liljegren hasn't played for quite a while. That pairing needs to go.

L K · April 27, 2023, 10:21:57 PM

Quote from: Guilt Trip on April 27, 2023, 09:49:35 PMTough spot for Keefe but man doesn't he have to break up Holl and Gio? The only way to do that is sit Holl and that's not without risk because Liljegren hasn't played for quite a while. That pairing needs to go.

It's just a bad pairing. It's slow and it's not being very effective. Although with Lafferty doing essentially nothing all series I wouldn't even be against going 11/7 so Holl can still kill penalties

azzurri63 · April 27, 2023, 10:52:08 PM

Been complaining about Holl for years but the love affair between him and Keefe is absolutely mind boggling. Can't fight, can't hit and coughs up the puck regularly. Lilly wasn't good near the end of the year but was one of our better defensemen all year and personally I think sitting him before seasons end made things worse as far as confidence. Sad the kid hasn't played. If I was him I'd ask to be traded. Holl plus Keefe's other love affair with the 4th line late in a game down on the scoreboard says enough of where this guy needs to go after this season. Along with number 3.

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate · April 27, 2023, 10:55:46 PM

Quote from: L K on April 27, 2023, 10:21:57 PM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on April 27, 2023, 09:49:35 PMTough spot for Keefe but man doesn't he have to break up Holl and Gio? The only way to do that is sit Holl and that's not without risk because Liljegren hasn't played for quite a while. That pairing needs to go.

It's just a bad pairing. It's slow and it's not being very effective. Although with Lafferty doing essentially nothing all series I wouldn't even be against going 11/7 so Holl can still kill penalties

This.

The back end needs more zip. Add Liljegren to the mix. Let Holl PK for the most part.

Bunting can draw in for Lafferty.

They have to figure out a way to spend more time on the attack.

This is going to be tough. TBH they have only played one good game the whole series. Vasilevskiy was better tonight; yet they can score on him. But I think either G6 or G7 if it comes to that are going to have to be supreme efforts by the Leafs if they want to beat these guys.

azzurri63 · April 27, 2023, 11:42:58 PM

Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 27, 2023, 10:55:46 PM
Quote from: L K on April 27, 2023, 10:21:57 PM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on April 27, 2023, 09:49:35 PMTough spot for Keefe but man doesn't he have to break up Holl and Gio? The only way to do that is sit Holl and that's not without risk because Liljegren hasn't played for quite a while. That pairing needs to go.

It's just a bad pairing. It's slow and it's not being very effective. Although with Lafferty doing essentially nothing all series I wouldn't even be against going 11/7 so Holl can still kill penalties

This.

The back end needs more zip. Add Liljegren to the mix. Let Holl PK for the most part.

Bunting can draw in for Lafferty.

They have to figure out a way to spend more time on the attack.

This is going to be tough. TBH they have only played one good game the whole series. Vasilevskiy was better tonight; yet they can score on him. But I think either G6 or G7 if it comes to that are going to have to be supreme efforts by the Leafs if they want to beat these guys.

Leave him in the press box. Kill penalties. He was on the ice for four of them in Game 1 plus 2 even strength goals. I understand he's not the only one killing penalties but if that's why we are playing him we r f'd. Lilly should have been playing from the get go. Sure he makes some boneheaded decisions but at least he's mobile and moves the puck.