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Lightning vs. Maple Leafs - Apr. 11th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050

Started by CarltonTheBear, April 10, 2023, 11:29:20 PM

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CarltonTheBear

Tampa Bay Lightning
45-29-6, 96 points
vs.
Toronto Maple Leafs
48-21-11, 107 points



                                                                      Projected
Lineups
                                                                     
Hagel-Point-Kucherov
Stamkos-Paul-Killorn
Colton-Cirelli-Eyssimont
Maroon-Bellemare-Perry

Hedman-Perbix
Sergachev-Raddysh
Cole-Cernak

Vasilevskiy
Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Tavares-O'Reilly-Nylander
Knies-Acciari-Kerfoot
ZAR-Kampf

McCabe-Brodie
Giordano-Holl
Rielly-Liljegren
Schenn

Samsonov



Scratches
Zach Bogosian
Haydn Fleury
Sam Lafferty
Calle Jarnkrok
Erik Gustafsson
Conor Timmins
Matt Murray



Injuries
•Tanner Jeannot - Leg - Injured Reserve
•Brent Seabrook - Shoulder - Injured Reserve
•Calle Jarnkrok - Undisclosed - Day to day
•Sam Lafferty - Undisclosed - Day to day
•Erik Gustafsson - Undisclosed - Day to day
•Matt Murray - Undisclosed - Out
•Bobby McMann - Knee - Injured Reserve
•Victor Mete - Lower Body - Injured Reserve
•Nick Robertson - Shoulder - Injured Reserve
•Jake Muzzin - Neck - Injured Reserve



Game notes
TB
•Andrei Vasilevskiy (32-21-4, 2.63 GAA, .916 Sv%) will likely start for the Lightning
•Tampa heads into the playoffs this season not exactly on a high note. The Lightning are 3-7 in their last 10 games and have lost 3 games in a row. A match-up against the Leafs could be a preview of what's to come in the 1st round, or it could be a game neither team approaches with a significant amount of intensity

TOR
•Ilya Samsonov (27-10-5, 2.33 GAA, .919 Sv%) will likely start for the Maple Leafs
•Toronto's goalie situation is of course pretty murky. We'll have to wait and see what happens in regards to whether the team will be allowed to call-up Woll or if they'll be forced to turn to Samsonov again



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Guilt Trip

I don't think Sammy starts this game. Maybe Sammy comes up a little sore this morning so they'll have to call up Woll and sign another ATO.

herman

"Can't let the poison get to you"
#BeBlessed #scumbag

Guilt Trip

Quote from: herman on April 11, 2023, 06:48:31 AMJust go double ATO in net
Yup. I don't see the league allowing them to call up Woll today if they didn't yesterday. There's no difference or am I missing something?

Zee

Quote from: Guilt Trip on April 11, 2023, 08:12:42 AM
Quote from: herman on April 11, 2023, 06:48:31 AMJust go double ATO in net
Yup. I don't see the league allowing them to call up Woll today if they didn't yesterday. There's no difference or am I missing something?

Leafs can just demote Knies to the Marlies and call up Woll so the cap works

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Guilt Trip on April 11, 2023, 08:12:42 AM
Quote from: herman on April 11, 2023, 06:48:31 AMJust go double ATO in net
Yup. I don't see the league allowing them to call up Woll today if they didn't yesterday. There's no difference or am I missing something?

To use the $0 emergency recall rule a team has to be forced into a position where they played the previous game with a shorthanded roster.

I think the argument in favour of the Leafs will be while yes they weren't forced into playing short in game #79 because they COULD have recalled Woll for that one, for game #80 they were forced into playing short because there weren't really any immediate roster moves they could have made at the time of the game to bring Woll up.

It'll be up to league discretion really, and they could always go back to "well you could have just not signed Knies the day before", but I wouldn't be surprised if they allow it now.

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Zee on April 11, 2023, 08:32:12 AMLeafs can just demote Knies to the Marlies and call up Woll so the cap works

Since he signed his ELC after the trade deadline Knies is not eligible to be reassigned to the AHL.

Guilt Trip

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on April 11, 2023, 09:01:40 AM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on April 11, 2023, 08:12:42 AM
Quote from: herman on April 11, 2023, 06:48:31 AMJust go double ATO in net
Yup. I don't see the league allowing them to call up Woll today if they didn't yesterday. There's no difference or am I missing something?

To use the $0 emergency recall rule a team has to be forced into a position where they played the previous game with a shorthanded roster.

I think the argument in favour of the Leafs will be while yes they weren't forced into playing short in game #79 because they COULD have recalled Woll for that one, for game #80 they were forced into playing short because there weren't really any immediate roster moves they could have made at the time of the game to bring Woll up.

It'll be up to league discretion really, and they could always go back to "well you could have just not signed Knies the day before", but I wouldn't be surprised if they allow it now.
Makes sense. Thx.

bustaheims

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on April 11, 2023, 09:03:22 AM
Quote from: Zee on April 11, 2023, 08:32:12 AMLeafs can just demote Knies to the Marlies and call up Woll so the cap works

Since he signed his ELC after the trade deadline Knies is not eligible to be reassigned to the AHL.

I thought players who were already part of the organization could be sent down, they just weren't eligible to play in the AHL playoffs.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Zee

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on April 11, 2023, 09:03:22 AM
Quote from: Zee on April 11, 2023, 08:32:12 AMLeafs can just demote Knies to the Marlies and call up Woll so the cap works

Since he signed his ELC after the trade deadline Knies is not eligible to be reassigned to the AHL.

Well this gummies things up!

Zee

Quote from: Zee on April 11, 2023, 09:40:41 AM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on April 11, 2023, 09:03:22 AM
Quote from: Zee on April 11, 2023, 08:32:12 AMLeafs can just demote Knies to the Marlies and call up Woll so the cap works

Since he signed his ELC after the trade deadline Knies is not eligible to be reassigned to the AHL.

Well this gummies things up!

For the record, capfriendly says they believe the Leafs will be able to recall Woll for tonight on emergency basis because they had to play short yesterday.

https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1645567528473591809

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: bustaheims on April 11, 2023, 09:34:03 AMI thought players who were already part of the organization could be sent down, they just weren't eligible to play in the AHL playoffs.

Post deadline a team can't send anyone from their active roster down to the AHL unless they were either called up after the deadline (like Woll) or coming off LTIR (like Dahlstrom).

Same rule is what prevented Nick Abruzzese from playing in the AHL after he signed his ELC last year. It's also what prevents the Leafs from say waiving Gustafsson right now and assigning him to the AHL to clear cap space.

herman

Tampa is running an EBUG in their practice. Honestly, just go EBUG vs EBUG because it will embarrass the league and be really fun for the fans (and the couple of guys chasing milestones).
"Can't let the poison get to you"
#BeBlessed #scumbag

Rob

The NHL is nuts.  Hey lets make a bunch of asinine rules up to make our product crappy.

Rob

Quote from: herman on April 11, 2023, 09:57:51 AMTampa is running an EBUG in their practice. Honestly, just go EBUG vs EBUG because it will embarrass the league and be really fun for the fans (and the couple of guys chasing milestones).

How about just no goalies and turn the nets around?