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TRADE DAY: Sandin / Engvall / Schenn

Started by bustaheims, February 28, 2023, 03:57:07 PM

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RedLeaf

I'm guessing they keep Gustafsson for the playoff run. More veteran presence on the D than what Sandin offered + a first for Sandin .

I'm a little shocked at giving up on Sandin so early too. Wow
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herman

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on February 28, 2023, 04:22:07 PMHe still has some shine on him, so I did think he could get more than this, but in 2 or so years I think people will look back on this the same way they do the Kapanen and Dermott deals. Or they won't and I'll look like an idiot. Bookmark either way I guess.

This is the Dermott trade but done earlier, so better return. Sandin was a late first rounder himself and I wasn't sure he'd bring back this much.
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louisstamos

If I'm mistaken - I don't even think the Leafs would have enough space yet to activate Murray off of IR, even if they send Woll down.  Me thinks they are either flipping Gustaffson, or he might end up on waivers. :/

bustaheims

Quote from: louisstamos on February 28, 2023, 04:43:47 PMIf I'm mistaken - I don't even think the Leafs would have enough space yet to activate Murray off of IR, even if they send Woll down.  Me thinks they are either flipping Gustaffson, or he might end up on waivers. :/

They do if they also send ZAR down to the Marlies (I think - with Woll and ZAR in the AHL, it's close with my rough math).
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Zee

I like Sandin and I might be higher on him than some.  I think he can have a long career similar to Anton Stralman who the Leafs also gave away years ago. 

I will miss you Sandman, hopefully things work out for the Leafs.


CarltonTheBear


bustaheims

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

bustaheims

3rd this year to Vancouver for Schenn. 3rd in 2024 from NYI for Engvall.
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CarltonTheBear

That's, uh, a lot of defencemen. Holl on his way out?

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on February 28, 2023, 04:22:07 PMHe still has some shine on him, so I did think he could get more than this, but in 2 or so years I think people will look back on this the same way they do the Kapanen and Dermott deals. Or they won't and I'll look like an idiot. Bookmark either way I guess.

Look, I'm a pretty strong fan of Sandin but my view following here I think is defensible.

He's established himself as a regular D-man on a good team at 22.  He has real offensive potential.  They've invested a lot in him and were getting returns.  He and Liljegren could have been the foundation of the defense when they are finished with Reilly.

This isn't Kapanen/Johnsson.  This is Anton Stralman, the Sequel.

Is it the world's worst trade?  No, the return is OK.  But Sandin will be starting for somebody foe the next 12-15 years.

My verdict: a bad mistake.

Zee

What the hell, as I was typing my Sandin reply 2 more things happened.  Dubas is trading like a drunken sailor.

louisstamos

I am so confused right now.

Dubas has gone full 0 f's given...

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Quote from: Zee on February 28, 2023, 04:48:52 PMWhat the hell, as I was typing my Sandin reply 2 more things happened.  Dubas is trading like a drunken sailor.

SAME HERE wow

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

So much for preserving team chemistry.

OK, I'll say it: welcome back Lockdown! *ducks*