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Leafs Accquire McCabe and Lafferty

Started by Deebo, February 27, 2023, 01:27:04 PM

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herman

Joey Anderson came from trading 7th rd pick Andreas Johnsson at his peak, and Pavel Gogolev was an undrafted free agent signing the Marlies were nurturing.
#27 #TeamFasstholes

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

MLHS:

Goaltending aside, a few weeks ago, they clearly needed at least one forward and defenseman of consequence. They have added one of each as well as two additional utility forwards, to boot. Where the ROR add raises the ceiling, these two additions raise the floor.

The pieces are here to do something special. Now we wait to see how it all comes together, and how Kyle Dubas' summer bets on goalies and his coaching staff really pan out.


"Raising the floor" seems like a good way to describe this trade. 

Losing a 2025 first rounder is a high price to pay, but TBH if the Leafs can't manage to go deep/win this year or the team landscape in 2025 is going to look like a plowed-over field anyway.

The rest of the price is inconsequential.

hap_leaf

McCabe on the blueline again! Great move, love this depth!


lamajama

What really p***es me off is that due to
the stupid playoff structure after the first round some incredible Eastern teams are going to be out.

Pffft. Want to explode your sport Gary?

At minimum 1 v 8. In my dreams 1 v 16.
I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.

L K

Quote from: lamajama on February 27, 2023, 03:58:49 PMWhat really p***es me off is that due to
the stupid playoff structure after the first round some incredible Eastern teams are going to be out.

Pffft. Want to explode your sport Gary?

At minimum 1 v 8. In my dreams 1 v 16.

I mean in fairness to the 1v8

Current format

Boston v Pittsburgh
Toronto v Tampa

Carolina v NYI
NJ v NYR

1v8 format

Boston v Pittsburgh
Carolina v NYI
NJ v NYR
Toronto v Tampa

It's the same format.  It just gets bad in round 2.

herman

Ron Hainsey reference in the Dubas presser!
#27 #TeamFasstholes

azzurri63

#52
Quote from: Guilt Trip on February 27, 2023, 02:06:28 PM
Quote from: Bill33 on February 27, 2023, 02:02:32 PMMeh. If giving up yet another first rounder, I'd expect to get players that appreciably improve the team. I'm not sure that either of these guys move the needle much at all.
McCabe is a 2nd pairing D man. They're not cheap and the Leafs got him at half retained for 2 more years at 2M. Leafs D just got a lot better because Muzz left a pretty big hole.

I'm not going to say if it was a bit much as far as payment but McCabe being a 2nd pairing Dman might have something to do with him being on a crappy team. Not much of a D there.Haven't seen much of his play but read some good things. Should have had Kane in the deal amongst others. Now that would have been a trade.

azzurri63

Quote from: L K on February 27, 2023, 04:05:45 PM
Quote from: lamajama on February 27, 2023, 03:58:49 PMWhat really p***es me off is that due to
the stupid playoff structure after the first round some incredible Eastern teams are going to be out.

Pffft. Want to explode your sport Gary?

At minimum 1 v 8. In my dreams 1 v 16.

I mean in fairness to the 1v8

Current format

Boston v Pittsburgh
Toronto v Tampa

Carolina v NYI
NJ v NYR

1v8 format

Boston v Pittsburgh
Carolina v NYI
NJ v NYR
Toronto v Tampa

It's the same format.  It just gets bad in round 2.


Bettman's an idiot. Can't stand the guy or listening to his mouth. Guy had no clue about hockey still doesn't. Like the matchups could still be similar but what I hate is it seems you're playing the same teams first round year after year.

Bill_Berg

Quote from: L K on February 27, 2023, 04:05:45 PM
Quote from: lamajama on February 27, 2023, 03:58:49 PMWhat really p***es me off is that due to
the stupid playoff structure after the first round some incredible Eastern teams are going to be out.

Pffft. Want to explode your sport Gary?

At minimum 1 v 8. In my dreams 1 v 16.

I mean in fairness to the 1v8

Current format

Boston v Pittsburgh
Toronto v Tampa

Carolina v NYI
NJ v NYR

1v8 format

Boston v Pittsburgh
Carolina v NYI
NJ v NYR
Toronto v Tampa

It's the same format.  It just gets bad in round 2.


Funny how that works out, but in 1 v 8, the Leafs would have a chance to move up and play the Rangers or maybe even the Islanders. Now they are stuck with Tampa no matter what.

azzurri63

Quote from: Zee on February 27, 2023, 01:46:36 PMThere must be a roster move coming in that a forward and/or D is going out.  Kerfoot I'm looking at you, maybe Sandin?  We'll see.

Holl and or Engvall can both go. That would make my day.McCabe replaces Holl and find another hard-nosed winger to replace Engvall as he will be a no show come playoffs.

Bill33

Quote from: Kaberle15 on February 27, 2023, 02:15:58 PMLets pick Ulmark for example, he was outstanding with a crap Buffalo team,

He wasn't in the top 10 of vezina voting in any of his years in buffalo. The reason he's where he is now is because goaltending, outside of maybe 5 guys, is a random crapshoot every year where average goalie can be elite, and reverse the next year.


Rob

All your Jakes are belong to us.

Speaking of which, I suppose this more or less confirms Muzzin isn't coming back?

Bill_Berg

Quote from: Rob on February 27, 2023, 05:17:56 PMAll your Jakes are belong to us.

Speaking of which, I suppose this more or less confirms Muzzin isn't coming back?

They already said he's done for this year. Reassess in the summer.