Leafs Accquire McCabe and Lafferty

[Bill33]

Meh. If giving up yet another first rounder, I'd expect to get players that appreciably improve the team. I'm not sure that either of these guys move the needle much at all.

[Kaberle15]

All my best Leafs playoff memories involve a McCabe on the blue line.

Now Get a Kaberle too!

[Guilt Trip]

Meh. If giving up yet another first rounder, I'd expect to get players that appreciably improve the team. I'm not sure that either of these guys move the needle much at all.

McCabe is a 2nd pairing D man. They're not cheap and the Leafs got him at half retained for 2 more years at 2M. Leafs D just got a lot better because Muzz left a pretty big hole.

[CarltonTheBear]

Meh. If giving up yet another first rounder, I'd expect to get players that appreciably improve the team. I'm not sure that either of these guys move the needle much at all.

McCabe is a 2nd pairing D man. They're not cheap and the Leafs got him at half retained for 2 more years at 2M. Leafs D just got a lot better because Muzz left a pretty big hole.

Leafs really needed someone to fill that 2LD hole that Muzzin left. Giordano's a warrior, but at his age it's questionable if he's really best suited for that spot this season, and even most questionable if he can do it consistently next season. Sandin unfortunately just hasn't proven he can do it either and the Leafs aren't in a position to wait for him.

[CarltonTheBear]

Some quick notes:

https://twitter.com/MikeKellyNHL/status/1630283410315829249

[Bill33]

Meh. If giving up yet another first rounder, I'd expect to get players that appreciably improve the team. I'm not sure that either of these guys move the needle much at all.

McCabe is a 2nd pairing D man. They're not cheap and the Leafs got him at half retained for 2 more years at 2M. Leafs D just got a lot better because Muzz left a pretty big hole.

Leafs really needed someone to fill that 2LD hole that Muzzin left. Giordano's a warrior, but at his age it's questionable if he's really best suited for that spot this season, and even most questionable if he can do it consistently next season. Sandin unfortunately just hasn't proven he can do it either and the Leafs aren't in a position to wait for him.

I'll see how it nets out before getting too negative, but guys with averagish stats playing high pairings on shit teams for their careers don't necessarily translate to equal placement on good teams.

[Kaberle15]

I am more than ok with this and the RoR/Acciari trade.

Look at the price that the Lightning just paid for Jeannot, or NJ on the Meier.

Dubas did all that and he kept all Leafs Prospects.

This is it, is do or die.

[herman]

This is kind of what I was somewhat hoping for but wasn't sure if we could foot the bill. I am looking forward to the tough roster move that will follow (in which we have no leverage); pretty sure it's Kerfoot going home and hopefully without a sweetener.

[Kaberle15]

I'll see how it nets out before getting too negative, but guys with averagish stats playing high pairings on shit teams for their careers don't necessarily translate to equal placement on good teams.

Lets pick Ulmark for example, he was outstanding with a crap Buffalo team, Boston with a great D system, transformed him in a (more) dominant goalie.

[Bender]

I'll see how it nets out before getting too negative, but guys with averagish stats playing high pairings on shit teams for their careers don't necessarily translate to equal placement on good teams.

Lets pick Ulmark for example, he was outstanding with a crap Buffalo team, Boston with a great D system, transformed him in a (more) dominant goalie.

Or even just look at Hagel!!

[bustaheims]

I'll see how it nets out before getting too negative, but guys with averagish stats playing high pairings on shit teams for their careers don't necessarily translate to equal placement on good teams.

There's truth in that, but he won't be playing as difficult a role in Toronto as he did in Chicago. So, it won't really be equal placement. He won't be expected to carry his pairing as much as he was when playing with Caleb Jones. Defensive guys also usually translate their abilities much better from bad teams to good team than the equivalent offensive guys.

Bottom line is, with the two big trades, the Leafs are now a lot harder to play against than they were a few weeks ago.

[herman]

https://www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2022/10/06/sam-lafferty-ready-for-an-increased-role-with-the-blackhawks/

Sam Lafferty was traded for Nylander (Alex) previously, and had played as defenseman as well. Finally getting some speed back onto the roster.

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/travisyost/status/1630250923170889731

Timely article that was posted a couple hours ago.

[herman]

There's truth in that, but he won't be playing as difficult a role in Toronto as he did in Chicago. So, it won't really be equal placement. He won't be expected to carry his pairing as much as he was when playing with Caleb Jones. Defensive guys also usually translate their abilities much better from bad teams to good team than the equivalent offensive guys.

This. Especially for a defenseman coming into a group with better forward support.
https://twitter.com/ShutdownLine/status/1630287678166933512
This also suggests Ron Hainsey 2.0, for Rielly, which should free up Brodie to prop up another pair.

[Britishbulldog]

I really like the 2 trades.  Those 4 players are solid and the Chicago trade isn't for rentals!  Wow! 

If RoR and Cookie are will to re-sign with the Leafs then this is even a GREATER win for Dubas and us.