Leafs Acquire ROR and Acciari

[Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate]

*Sigh*

I get that 90's nostalgia is in these days but I was sort of hoping we'd skip the "Draft, Schmaft" part of it.

At the same time, if you don't go for it now then when? Hopefully when we rebuild again our picks are like #5 and not #25.

This will make it 4 of the last 5 drafts where they haven't had a 1st round pick. They've been "going for it" every year.

Maybe this will be another Foligno debacle but it seems like a much better bet.  Sticking a Conn Smythe winner on your roster is appealing.

[L K]

Isn't O'Reilly hurt right now?

He's been back for three games now

[Nik]

Maybe this will be another Foligno debacle but it seems like a much better bet.  Sticking a Conn Smythe winner on your roster is appealing.

Just like the reaction here was overwhelmingly positive to the Foligno deal, every addition seems great when it's weighed against nothing.

[Guilt Trip]

*Sigh*

I get that 90's nostalgia is in these days but I was sort of hoping we'd skip the "Draft, Schmaft" part of it.

At the same time, if you don't go for it now then when? Hopefully when we rebuild again our picks are like #5 and not #25.

This will make it 4 of the last 5 drafts where they haven't had a 1st round pick. They've been "going for it" every year.

And I want them to go for it every year.

[lamajama]

Everyone continue to tell me how to feel please

[Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate]

Maybe this will be another Foligno debacle but it seems like a much better bet.  Sticking a Conn Smythe winner on your roster is appealing.

Just like the reaction here was overwhelmingly positive to the Foligno deal, every addition seems great when it's weighed against nothing.

I hear you.  You may be right. But getting Acciari too alone makes it a better bet (acknowledging that the 2nd rounder has value).  In any event, if they flame out in R1 I don't think Dubas will have any more opportunities to do this.

[Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate]

*Sigh*

I get that 90's nostalgia is in these days but I was sort of hoping we'd skip the "Draft, Schmaft" part of it.

At the same time, if you don't go for it now then when? Hopefully when we rebuild again our picks are like #5 and not #25.

This will make it 4 of the last 5 drafts where they haven't had a 1st round pick. They've been "going for it" every year.

And I want them to go for it every year.

I mean, this is the basic conundrum.  Are they likely to ever have 4 guys as talented at Tavares, Matthews, Marner, Nylander again?  Probably not.  If you knew you could keep them together for, say, 6 more years, then you can play it conservative.  But that won't be the case.

[Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate]

Isn't O'Reilly hurt right now?

He's been back for three games now

Thanks.

[Nik]

I hear you.  You may be right. But getting Acciari too alone makes it a better bet (acknowledging that the 2nd rounder has value).  In any event, if they flame out in R1 I don't think Dubas will have any more opportunities to do this.

I don't think Acciari meaningfully moves the needle at all but, regardless, the Leafs need to break out of the mold where they're always fighting last year's battles. Just getting out of the first round might save Dubas' job but it shouldn't be the long term goal.

[Nik]

Also, not liking the cost aside, this seems like another example of the Foligno deal where they emphasized improving the bottom 6 to the point of trading for an older guy not having a great year when they could have tried to improve the top 6 and improved the bottom half of the lineup  by knocking someone down.

[Bender]

Maybe this will be another Foligno debacle but it seems like a much better bet.  Sticking a Conn Smythe winner on your roster is appealing.

Just like the reaction here was overwhelmingly positive to the Foligno deal, every addition seems great when it's weighed against nothing.

I mean Folignos never been a scorer. I think plenty of people would've taken Taylor Hall instead.

[Guilt Trip]

I hear you.  You may be right. But getting Acciari too alone makes it a better bet (acknowledging that the 2nd rounder has value).  In any event, if they flame out in R1 I don't think Dubas will have any more opportunities to do this.

I don't think Acciari meaningfully moves the needle at all but, regardless, the Leafs need to break out of the mold where they're always fighting last year's battles. Just getting out of the first round might save Dubas' job but it shouldn't be the long term goal.

Acciari isn't someone to sleep on. He leads the Blues in hits by a mile and his takeaway to giveaway ratio is crazy. He's had 6 GVs all year. He gives Keefe options for the bottom 6.
Leafs just became harder to play against.

[Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate]

Bunting-Matthews-Nylander
Tavares-O'Reilly-Marner
Kerfoot-Acciari-Jarnkrok
Engvall-Kämpf-Holmberg

Yeah, probably not, but where, in fact, will the new guys slot in?

[Guilt Trip]

Also, not liking the cost aside, this seems like another example of the Foligno deal where they emphasized improving the bottom 6 to the point of trading for an older guy not having a great year when they could have tried to improve the top 6 and improved the bottom half of the lineup  by knocking someone down.

Foligno was never as good as ROR. I think you're undervaluing what he brings. We also don't know where either will play yet. I can see ROR on JT's wing at some point. Also if obtaining a 2LW to move Jarnkrok down, there's no guarantee he'll produce there. If/with ROR at 3C they should produce more then Kampf.

[Guilt Trip]

Bunting-Matthews-Nylander
Tavares-O'Reilly-Marner
Kerfoot-Acciari-Jarnkrok
Engvall-Kämpf-Holmberg

Yeah, probably not, but where, in fact, will the new guys slot in?

Best thing is, Keefe has options. Let's not forget that I think Knies probably gets added to the bottom 6 at some point as well.