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Maple Leafs @ Lightning - Dec. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, TSN 1050

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Guilt Trip

Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 03, 2022, 10:07:09 PMLike I said, folks....  OK, we didn't win.  But I stand by my assessment of Murray.
well your assessment was  wrong...he was great until that OT goal

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Quote from: Guilt Trip on December 03, 2022, 10:10:28 PM
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 03, 2022, 10:07:09 PMLike I said, folks....  OK, we didn't win.  But I stand by my assessment of Murray.
well your assessment was  wrong...he was great until that OT goal

*shrugs* Had a couple of crossbars get by him, and he didn't react on the 3rd goal, and Kucherov beat him clean from distance (yeah, I know he was screened).  Sorry, I say he wasn't that great tonight.

BrownRolo

That play was 2 on 2 and Sandin kept telling Matthews to take the other guy. But Matthews for some reason stayed in the middle. If he was closer to where he should have been he has a chance of tying the Bolts stick up. Instead he just has a lazy stick in the lane. Matthews has been very poor the last while. I'm not loving his work ethic.

Guilt Trip

Leafs scored another 3 on Vasi. That makes 7 out of the last 8 games they got at least 3 on him.
Good game overall. Leafs need to stay out of the box but well earned point.

bill0199

Maybe time to go 3 Defencemen in OT and get it to a shootout. 😳

Guilt Trip

Quote from: BrownRolo on December 03, 2022, 10:15:36 PMThat play was 2 on 2 and Sandin kept telling Matthews to take the other guy. But Matthews for some reason stayed in the middle. If he was closer to where he should have been he has a chance of tying the Bolts stick up. Instead he just has a lazy stick in the lane. Matthews has been very poor the last while. I'm not loving his work ethic.
Murray has to stop that shot from the outside. Matthews was between the player and the net and his gap was fine. You don't go out to the dot chasing.


Zee

Yeah it was a stupid play by Matthews but Murray has to have that. Brutal goal to lose on

RedLeaf

Quote from: herman on December 03, 2022, 10:34:48 PMhttps://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1599237918757122048
:)

Clearly not practising this enough. Hard to believe a team that's in the top 5 in the overall standings is also the very worst team in OT. WTF gives here ?
"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.." --Isaac Asimov.

Guilt Trip

Quote from: RedLeaf on December 04, 2022, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: herman on December 03, 2022, 10:34:48 PMhttps://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1599237918757122048
:)

Clearly not practising this enough. Hard to believe a team that's in the top 5 in the overall standings is also the very worst team in OT. WTF gives here ?
Last night has no bearing on practice. Murray let in a softie, nothing you can do about it.

RedLeaf

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Quote from: Guilt Trip on December 04, 2022, 09:55:52 AM
Quote from: RedLeaf on December 04, 2022, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: herman on December 03, 2022, 10:34:48 PMhttps://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1599237918757122048
:)

Clearly not practising this enough. Hard to believe a team that's in the top 5 in the overall standings is also the very worst team in OT. WTF gives here ?
Last night has no bearing on practice. Murray let in a softie, nothing you can do about it.

Yeah. I was referring more to their inability to win in OT in general. Very bottom of the league in this dept. and for what it's worth, Murray should have stopped that but WTF is wrong with Matthews? He's clearly disengaged this season for whatever reason. That was a horrible, nonchalant backpass to the lightning as it turned out. Matthews has gone from a take-away machine to a give-away one .
"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.." --Isaac Asimov.

Guilt Trip

Quote from: RedLeaf on December 04, 2022, 10:11:13 AM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on December 04, 2022, 09:55:52 AM
Quote from: RedLeaf on December 04, 2022, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: herman on December 03, 2022, 10:34:48 PMhttps://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1599237918757122048
:)

Clearly not practising this enough. Hard to believe a team that's in the top 5 in the overall standings is also the very worst team in OT. WTF gives here ?
Last night has no bearing on practice. Murray let in a softie, nothing you can do about it.

Yeah. I was referring more to their inability to win in OT in general. Very bottom of the league in this dept. and for what it's worth, Murray should have stopped that but WTF is wrong with Matthews? He's clearly disengaged this season for whatever reason. That was a horrible, nonchalant backpass to the lightning as it turned out.
I totally disagree that Matthews is disengaged this season. If anything he's more committed to playing a stronger defensive game and not cheating on offence. Yes he made a bad pass but he did everything else right last night. Kept the guy far on the outside for a low percentage shot. The play should have died right there with an easy save.

RedLeaf

Quote from: Guilt Trip on December 04, 2022, 10:26:44 AM
Quote from: RedLeaf on December 04, 2022, 10:11:13 AM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on December 04, 2022, 09:55:52 AM
Quote from: RedLeaf on December 04, 2022, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: herman on December 03, 2022, 10:34:48 PMhttps://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1599237918757122048
:)

Clearly not practising this enough. Hard to believe a team that's in the top 5 in the overall standings is also the very worst team in OT. WTF gives here ?
Last night has no bearing on practice. Murray let in a softie, nothing you can do about it.

Yeah. I was referring more to their inability to win in OT in general. Very bottom of the league in this dept. and for what it's worth, Murray should have stopped that but WTF is wrong with Matthews? He's clearly disengaged this season for whatever reason. That was a horrible, nonchalant backpass to the lightning as it turned out.
I totally disagree that Matthews is disengaged this season. If anything he's more committed to playing a stronger defensive game and not cheating on offence. Yes he made a bad pass but he did everything else right last night. Kept the guy far on the outside for a low percentage shot. The play should have died right there with an easy save.

I wish I could see what you're seeing. I'm seeing someone who's struggling this year.
"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.." --Isaac Asimov.

bustaheims

I'm with GT. Matthews definitely seems to be focused on rounding out his game to do more to help the team win. Unfortunately, the goals aren't coming quite as easily as in the past, but I have a hard time saying he's struggling or disengaged. In terms of the defensive and physical sides of things, he seems to be more engaged than seasons past.

As for the play in OT last night...I have a hard time reading too much into that. Any mistake at 3-on-3 becomes magnified. And, quite frankly, overtime has become less about the best team winning and more about which team gets lucky.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

RedLeaf

Quote from: bustaheims on December 04, 2022, 01:14:28 PMI'm with GT. Matthews definitely seems to be focused on rounding out his game to do more to help the team win. Unfortunately, the goals aren't coming quite as easily as in the past, but I have a hard time saying he's struggling or disengaged. In terms of the defensive and physical sides of things, he seems to be more engaged than seasons past.

As for the play in OT last night...I have a hard time reading too much into that. Any mistake at 3-on-3 becomes magnified. And, quite frankly, overtime has become less about the best team winning and more about which team gets lucky.

I guess he's just not in 'beast mode' yet.
"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.." --Isaac Asimov.