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2022/2023 General NBA Thread

Started by Nik, November 03, 2022, 07:38:10 PM

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L K

FVV gets the bag from Houston.  135 million over 3 years (Matthews at 14M would be overpaid though...)

This now leaves the Raptors with zero capable PGs and the free agents left are very mediocre. Good thing we don't have a FRP next year. 

Masai/Webster have not really been effective since the Kawhi/Gasol trades

Captain Canuck

The Toronto Raptors have signed free agent guard Dennis Schroder to a two-year deal worth $26M, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.


Nik


So this middling team is somehow going to be even worse at guard next year?
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L K

Quote from: Nik on June 30, 2023, 10:48:53 PMSo this middling team is somehow going to be even worse at guard next year?

Hey we can run Scottie - GTJ - OG - Siakam - Poeltl

Scottie can be an ok passer but is not a PG....he also can't shoot...he's also far too passive on offense and had a down year defensively last year so putting extra responsibility on him makes a lot of sense. 

Schroeder is also not a great shooter so Masai is doubling down on a roster that can't shoot threes while losing one of the few guys who can.  What could go wrong with that plan

Significantly Insignificant

Quote from: L K on July 01, 2023, 08:10:53 AM
Quote from: Nik on June 30, 2023, 10:48:53 PMSo this middling team is somehow going to be even worse at guard next year?

Hey we can run Scottie - GTJ - OG - Siakam - Poeltl

Scottie can be an ok passer but is not a PG....he also can't shoot...he's also far too passive on offense and had a down year defensively last year so putting extra responsibility on him makes a lot of sense. 

Schroeder is also not a great shooter so Masai is doubling down on a roster that can't shoot threes while losing one of the few guys who can.  What could go wrong with that plan

Your forgetting Grady Dick.  Second coming of Larry Bird.
"We can't change what's done, we can only move on." - Arthur Morgan

Frank E

There's no 2023-24 Raptors thread...but could someone tell me how I'm supposed to feel about the Anunoby trade?

Dappleganger

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Quote from: Frank E on December 30, 2023, 01:05:25 PMThere's no 2023-24 Raptors thread...but could someone tell me how I'm supposed to feel about the Anunoby trade?

I think on the face of it, it isn't great but when you consider OG is a pending Free agent who was probably not going to re-sign that makes it better. RJ will be fun to watch and Quickley is the better piece coming back, imo.

Frank E

Quote from: Dappleganger on December 30, 2023, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: Frank E on December 30, 2023, 01:05:25 PMThere's no 2023-24 Raptors thread...but could someone tell me how I'm supposed to feel about the Anunoby trade?

I think on the face of it, it isn't great but when you consider OG is a pending Free agent who was probably not going to re-sign that makes it better. RJ will be fun to watch and Quickley is the better piece coming back, imo.


Gotcha...a big we shall see.

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L K

Quote from: Dappleganger on December 30, 2023, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: Frank E on December 30, 2023, 01:05:25 PMThere's no 2023-24 Raptors thread...but could someone tell me how I'm supposed to feel about the Anunoby trade?

I think on the face of it, it isn't great but when you consider OG is a pending Free agent who was probably not going to re-sign that makes it better. RJ will be fun to watch and Quickley is the better piece coming back, imo.


It's a downgrade defensively but the team was just so poorly constructed that a change isn't a bad thing.  It's pretty clear that Masai/Webster/MLSE aren't willing to entertain a harder rebuild but expecting players for FRP trades isn't what we are going to see. 

I still think they end up trading Siakam

Frank E

Quote from: L K on January 03, 2024, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: Dappleganger on December 30, 2023, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: Frank E on December 30, 2023, 01:05:25 PMThere's no 2023-24 Raptors thread...but could someone tell me how I'm supposed to feel about the Anunoby trade?

I think on the face of it, it isn't great but when you consider OG is a pending Free agent who was probably not going to re-sign that makes it better. RJ will be fun to watch and Quickley is the better piece coming back, imo.


It's a downgrade defensively but the team was just so poorly constructed that a change isn't a bad thing.  It's pretty clear that Masai/Webster/MLSE aren't willing to entertain a harder rebuild but expecting players for FRP trades isn't what we are going to see. 

I still think they end up trading Siakam

Alright gentlemen...how do we feel about today's moves?

I'm trying to understand what they're doing here by sending a pick for Olynyk.

L K

Quote from: Frank E on February 08, 2024, 03:02:32 PM
Quote from: L K on January 03, 2024, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: Dappleganger on December 30, 2023, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: Frank E on December 30, 2023, 01:05:25 PMThere's no 2023-24 Raptors thread...but could someone tell me how I'm supposed to feel about the Anunoby trade?

I think on the face of it, it isn't great but when you consider OG is a pending Free agent who was probably not going to re-sign that makes it better. RJ will be fun to watch and Quickley is the better piece coming back, imo.


It's a downgrade defensively but the team was just so poorly constructed that a change isn't a bad thing.  It's pretty clear that Masai/Webster/MLSE aren't willing to entertain a harder rebuild but expecting players for FRP trades isn't what we are going to see. 

I still think they end up trading Siakam

Alright gentlemen...how do we feel about today's moves?

I'm trying to understand what they're doing here by sending a pick for Olynyk.


I think the bigger aspect of the trade was Agbaji.  He was a 2022 first round pick and is another athletic African player with ties to Masai.   They gave up a very late first in a mediocre draft when they already have another late first.

I'm disappointed they didn't trade Brown or Boucher to add some assets but I don't dislike this trade.   They needed a stretch big and at 33 he's an ok veteran if he stays