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Maple Leafs @ Jets - Oct. 22nd, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050

Started by CarltonTheBear, October 21, 2022, 05:05:16 PM

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cw

Quote from: herman on October 23, 2022, 07:58:15 PM
Quote from: cw on October 23, 2022, 01:39:09 PMSaw an article I cannot find a link to now that reviewed the 4th line game stats.
Said they had a lot of good numbers for the game.
I thought they did a decent job.
Clifford tripping call (which seems to happen to anyone) being the only blemish.

https://twitter.com/camcharronyvr/status/1584195996573392898

Thanks for that. It isn't the one I saw but it is an interesting one. He put some effort into it. Raised a number things I had not thought of.

cw

Quote from: bustaheims on October 23, 2022, 02:44:20 PMSimmonds had an entirely unnecessary penalty in the 3rd

I didn't see that. Must have been distracted.

I don't see their addition as "oh, someone hit a Leafs player and therefore, they're a waste of time"
Having guys like that around give other Leafs the confidence to finish their checks or play a little bigger. They know someone has their back that can take care of things.

I also agree with the article Herman posted that if you played them 82 games, teams would bait them into penalties, etc and they probably wouldn't win as many games. To have someone like that around, when fighting is ticking up (slightly ahead of last year), for a game against an opponent like the Jets, isn't a bad thing though.

I also think having players who can be inserted helps keep players on their toes.
Aube-Kubel, Malgin & Engvall are re-evaluating what they have to do to stay in the line up.
They're all playing for their NHL lives or next year's contract, so they're very likely to give it everything they've got.

herman

Quote from: cw on October 24, 2022, 12:26:05 AMI also agree with the article Herman posted that if you played them 82 games, teams would bait them into penalties, etc and they probably wouldn't win as many games. To have someone like that around, when fighting is ticking up (slightly ahead of last year), for a game against an opponent like the Jets, isn't a bad thing though.

I also think having players who can be inserted helps keep players on their toes.
Aube-Kubel, Malgin & Engvall are re-evaluating what they have to do to stay in the line up.
They're all playing for their NHL lives or next year's contract, so they're very likely to give it everything they've got.

I prefer having a rotating cast in the bottom of the lineup (cap doesn't always make this possible), so the team can branch into slightly different playstyles for match ups. The stars are stars because they can do more different things at a high level; mix in a third banana in certain pairings or just scramble it all to get a completely different look.

Like the current iteration of the Tavares line has some nice rush potential and can hold it on the boards a bit, but you could go full grind to crush a third line match up by playing Engvall-Tavares-Jarnkrok, or flip Matthews from a puck-possession cycle line to Robertson-Matthews-Nylander for quick strike rush offense.
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cw

Quote from: herman on October 24, 2022, 09:16:57 AM
Quote from: cw on October 24, 2022, 12:26:05 AMI also agree with the article Herman posted that if you played them 82 games, teams would bait them into penalties, etc and they probably wouldn't win as many games. To have someone like that around, when fighting is ticking up (slightly ahead of last year), for a game against an opponent like the Jets, isn't a bad thing though.

I also think having players who can be inserted helps keep players on their toes.
Aube-Kubel, Malgin & Engvall are re-evaluating what they have to do to stay in the line up.
They're all playing for their NHL lives or next year's contract, so they're very likely to give it everything they've got.

I prefer having a rotating cast in the bottom of the lineup (cap doesn't always make this possible), so the team can branch into slightly different playstyles for match ups. The stars are stars because they can do more different things at a high level; mix in a third banana in certain pairings or just scramble it all to get a completely different look.

Like the current iteration of the Tavares line has some nice rush potential and can hold it on the boards a bit, but you could go full grind to crush a third line match up by playing Engvall-Tavares-Jarnkrok, or flip Matthews from a puck-possession cycle line to Robertson-Matthews-Nylander for quick strike rush offense.

I think it is highly unlikely Clifford-Simmonds remain on the 4th line for a long time.
Their playing days in the NHL are almost over.
They probably gave it their all in Winnipeg.
Like a young, up & coming, scrawny player, it will be difficult for them to do what they did night after night.
I suppose tonight is a reward for their efforts in Winnipeg.

There is a time coming when players start to return from LTIR that at least one of them will likely go back to the Marlies.