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Started by CarltonTheBear, August 11, 2022, 11:12:46 AM

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bustaheims

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Quote from: CarltonTheBear on June 27, 2023, 10:34:40 AMThe NHL awards show continues to be basically completely pointless but the Hart voting results showed McDavid almost unanimously winning the Hart trophy:



The search is on for whoever only gave him a 5th place vote (it wasn't Haggerty in Boston).

Has to be whoever have Pasta a 1st place vote, doesn't it? Otherwise, it would mean that person completely left McDavid off their ballot.

Shocked it's not Haggerty.

Also, who they hell did the give their 2nd, 3rd. and 4th place votes to? Yikes.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

CarltonTheBear

The McDavid 5th place Hart vote was by Seth Rorabaugh. He went:

1. Pasta
2. Robertson
3. Sorokin
4. Tkachuk
5. McDavid

IIRC he has a history of pretty odd voting habits. But this one certainly takes the cake.

herman

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on June 27, 2023, 12:15:24 PMThe McDavid 5th place Hart vote was by Seth Rorabaugh. He went:

1. Pasta
2. Robertson
3. Sorokin
4. Tkachuk
5. McDavid

IIRC he has a history of pretty odd voting habits. But this one certainly takes the cake.

This one reads a lot like he was voting with a points system and was giving McDavid 5 pts.
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CarltonTheBear

Quote from: herman on June 27, 2023, 12:24:03 PMThis one reads a lot like he was voting with a points system and was giving McDavid 5 pts.

This was the common theory at first but was eventually debunked.

bustaheims

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on June 27, 2023, 12:15:24 PMThe McDavid 5th place Hart vote was by Seth Rorabaugh. He went:

1. Pasta
2. Robertson
3. Sorokin
4. Tkachuk
5. McDavid

IIRC he has a history of pretty odd voting habits. But this one certainly takes the cake.

Bananas. Not putting McDavid at 1 is bad enough, but putting Robertson at 2 and Sorokin ahead of Tkachuk? Ridiculous.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Bullfrog

Maybe he's taking a strict reading of the trophy description? Most valuable to the team and he's like: "they have Draisitl too".

I don't know. It just doesn't make sense.

Nik

Quote from: Bullfrog on June 27, 2023, 12:34:49 PMMaybe he's taking a strict reading of the trophy description? Most valuable to the team and he's like: "they have Draisitl too".

I don't know. It just doesn't make sense.

It's the same guy who left McDavid and Matthews off his ballot the year before. He's just a troll being a troll and looking for attention.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

Bullfrog

oh wow. That's pretty brutal. He shouldn't be allowed to vote if he's not taking it seriously.

L K

Quote from: Bullfrog on June 27, 2023, 12:34:49 PMMaybe he's taking a strict reading of the trophy description? Most valuable to the team and he's like: "they have Draisitl too".

I don't know. It just doesn't make sense.

Probably shouldn't be voting the guy with the Selke and Vezina winners as your first place Hart vote then.  That kind of kills that argument.

Nik

Quote from: L K on June 28, 2023, 11:16:37 AM
Quote from: Bullfrog on June 27, 2023, 12:34:49 PMMaybe he's taking a strict reading of the trophy description? Most valuable to the team and he's like: "they have Draisitl too".

I don't know. It just doesn't make sense.

Probably shouldn't be voting the guy with the Selke and Vezina winners as your first place Hart vote then.  That kind of kills that argument.

The thing I've never really understood about that argument is that it seems to imply there's a sort of ceiling at which value stops being "valuable". Like, and I know you can't, but if you could reduce a player's value to a single number then if McDavid had a value of 100 and Pastrnak had a 80 then Pastrnak isn't "more valuable to his team" simply because his teammates are worse than McDavid's because every bit of McDavid's value is still contributing to his team winning games. Basically it's saying that so long as a team makes the playoffs, every win above that plateau is effectively meaningless.

"Most valuable to his team" isn't the same thing as "Most valuable to his team relative to his teammates".
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

Bender

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herman

#27

Rob


bustaheims

Quote from: Rob on July 11, 2023, 06:21:30 PM
Quote from: herman on July 11, 2023, 06:07:35 PMhttps://twitter.com/thehockeynews/status/1678841749064515584
Wow the NHL is very hip

Soon they will have Cabbage Patch Kids of your favorite NHL player. 

Looking forward to the release of NHL branded pet rocks.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan