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Started by CarltonTheBear, August 11, 2022, 11:12:46 AM

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CarltonTheBear

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Quote from: bustaheims on November 08, 2022, 03:11:23 PMThe fact that the league stated he's not eligible to play in the NHL probably helps the Bruins some here. Even if they hadn't rescinded the contract, the NHL payout was not available to Miller.

Maybe but I mean even that statement from Bettman was kinda odd. They allowed Miller to be drafted by a NHL team. They allowed Miller to be signed to a NHL contract (all deals are approved by the league). Now all of a sudden they're going "actually he might be banned for life". Did the league do their own independent investigation into Miller that led them to that? Did they issue him some sort of formal suspension that hasn't been announced? Was this ever communicated to Miller and his representation? Is there any sort of precedent that allows them to strip a players eligibility for something like this?

I'm not in any way trying to defend Miller on a personal level, but from a legal perspective both the Bruins and NHL kinda look like absolute clown shows right now and if this ended up going to court that's not really going to work in their favour.

herman

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herman

Evander Kane suffered a severe skate laceration to the wrist. Watch out if you're squeamish and scrolling hockey tweets.
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herman

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Bender

"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

Nik

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on November 08, 2022, 03:24:52 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on November 08, 2022, 03:11:23 PMThe fact that the league stated he's not eligible to play in the NHL probably helps the Bruins some here. Even if they hadn't rescinded the contract, the NHL payout was not available to Miller.

Maybe but I mean even that statement from Bettman was kinda odd. They allowed Miller to be drafted by a NHL team. They allowed Miller to be signed to a NHL contract (all deals are approved by the league). Now all of a sudden they're going "actually he might be banned for life". Did the league do their own independent investigation into Miller that led them to that? Did they issue him some sort of formal suspension that hasn't been announced? Was this ever communicated to Miller and his representation? Is there any sort of precedent that allows them to strip a players eligibility for something like this?

Does the league really have the authority to tell teams who they can or can't draft? Or sign? Yes they need to approve deals but that's within the context, I'm assuming, of whether or not those deals comply with established rules and regulations in the CBA. I don't think they have any sort of authority to pass moral judgements on players who get signed and overrule the teams on these matters.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

herman

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The only other case I could think of is Slava Voynov, but that's a league-level suspension scenario.
I guess they could invoke that since he signed a contract and fell under NHL jurisdiction, but his infractions didn't occur while signed with a team, so...

Edit: apparently Logan Mailloux falls under a similar ruling from the NHL. He is (currently) unplayable for Montreal.
https://twitter.com/AndrewBerkshire/status/1590414692304191488
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Zee

Does Boudreau coach against the Leafs on Saturday?

Guilt Trip

Quote from: Zee on November 10, 2022, 08:58:56 AMDoes Boudreau coach against the Leafs on Saturday?
Final chance maybe. It's not the coach.

Hobbes

Quote from: Nik on November 09, 2022, 01:49:45 PMDoes the league really have the authority to tell teams who they can or can't draft? Or sign? Yes they need to approve deals but that's within the context, I'm assuming, of whether or not those deals comply with established rules and regulations in the CBA. I don't think they have any sort of authority to pass moral judgements on players who get signed and overrule the teams on these matters.

I suppose it would fall under the CBA's Article 18A "Commissioner Discipline for Off-Ice Conduct" where it gives pretty broad latitude if the player "has been or is guilty of conduct (whether during or outside the playing season) that is detrimental to or against the welfare of the League or the game of hockey..." The commissioner is able to expel or suspend the player indefinitely, or void his SPC (or impose a fine). There's a bunch of procedures they're supposed to follow to do that, but it pretty much gives Bettman carte blache if he thinks it's merited.
It's not denial...I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.

herman

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Frank E

The NJ Devils have won 8 games in a row.

herman

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L K

Ok how the hell are the Bruins this good

Nik

I watched a bit of Flames-Jets last night and I'm still stunned after 10 years that the Jets are still wearing those uniforms. They're by far the most non-descript, generic looking uniforms in the league. It looked like the Flames were playing a Create-A-Team franchise in NHL '17
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi