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2022-23 NHL Thread

Started by CarltonTheBear, August 11, 2022, 11:12:46 AM

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Nik

Quote from: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 17, 2023, 07:22:27 PMThe owner of the Toyota CenterLorenzo Fertitta(sp?) commented while I lived there that the building had renovations done to accommodate an NHL team.

So it's Tilman Fertita and his attitude towards an NHL team sure seems to be that he has little-to-no interest in pursuing and owning one but is open to having one paying him rent in the building he owns. So any prospective NHL team not owned by him would either face the issue of not owning their own arena, which is not good for the bottom line, or try to convince Houston to build a second arena for a sport that may or may not be successful.

Quote from: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on May 17, 2023, 07:22:27 PMIt's the only top 10 American market not to have had a team. The idea that Fort Lauderdale and Sunrise Florida can support teams and Houston couldn't is so wrong that it's ignorant.

I mean, the team in Sunrise is really supported by Miami and all of Southern Florida in theory but also...they haven't been that successful?
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herman

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His Wiki has been updated.

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Arn

NHL DOPS is bad, but only 5 games from the IIHF for that is pitiful.
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Arn

Not quite NHL, but I know we've touched on this kind of thing in game day threads, so just throwing out as a discussion point, but a few changes around penalty rules in the European Champions Hockey League next season.

https://www.championshockeyleague.com/en/news/chl-introduces-on-ice-rule-innovations-for-2023-24-season

QuoteMinor penalties dealt the same as major: a team which caused a minor penalty will remain shorthanded even if the opposing team score a goal
 
Serving delayed penalties: a minor penalty will be served even if a goal is scored while a delayed penalty is pending
 
Shorthander erases current minor penalty: if a shorthanded team score, the minor penalty against will end
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CarltonTheBear

A powerplay getting wiped if a team scored on a delayed penalty never really made any sense to me. I think seeing the other two changes get implemented to the NHL as well would be cool but the delayed penalty one is probably the only one that has a realistic chance of seeing the light of day here.

bustaheims

The powerplay not ending after a goal would be a throwback. Not sure if that would go over super well, but would be fun to see.

Don't like the idea of a SHG ending a PP. No need to punish the team twice for that.
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CarltonTheBear

Quote from: bustaheims on May 25, 2023, 09:19:03 AMDon't like the idea of a SHG ending a PP. No need to punish the team twice for that.

I wonder how many times a team is able to respond to a PK goal with a PP goal later. I imagine it'd fairly rare so I'm not really sure how much it would necessarily punish a team twice.

It'd be cool to see if it would push PKs to attack a little bit more... which in turn could also end up making powerplay's more successful.

bustaheims

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 25, 2023, 09:24:06 AM
Quote from: bustaheims on May 25, 2023, 09:19:03 AMDon't like the idea of a SHG ending a PP. No need to punish the team twice for that.

I wonder how many times a team is able to respond to a PK goal with a PP goal later. I imagine it'd fairly rare so I'm not really sure how much it would necessarily punish a team twice.

It'd be cool to see if it would push PKs to attack a little bit more... which in turn could also end up making powerplay's more successful.

Taking away the opportunity to respond on the PP is a punishment, regardless of success rate.
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OldTimeHockey

I think that allowing multiple goals on a PP may work but my fear would be that a 5 powerplay goal night may lead to even more " the nhl is fixed" or "the refs won the game" BS.

Arn

I can see a Situation where you've a team 2 men down with ~2 minutes left leading by a goal and the losing team pulls the goalie for the 6 on 3 and gets a couple of goals to win.

Not sure if it's a good or bad thing, though!

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Rob

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 25, 2023, 09:05:14 AMA powerplay getting wiped if a team scored on a delayed penalty never really made any sense to me. I think seeing the other two changes get implemented to the NHL as well would be cool but the delayed penalty one is probably the only one that has a realistic chance of seeing the light of day here.

It sort of does.  The team can pull their goalie and add a skater on a delayed penalty with no real repercussions since as soon as the offending team touches the puck play is blown dead.  I guess that gives them an advantage, and if they score, they have taken advantage of that man advantage therefore justice has been served. 

Ending the PP if a SHG is scored is pretty weird and just a dumb idea.  Makes no sense. 

The full 2 minute penalty regardless of a goal scored or not is an interesting one.  It may be more of a deterrent to committing minor infractions.

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Rob on May 25, 2023, 10:42:00 AMIt sort of does.  The team can pull their goalie and add a skater on a delayed penalty with no real repercussions since as soon as the offending team touches the puck play is blown dead.  I guess that gives them an advantage, and if they score, they have taken advantage of that man advantage therefore justice has been served. 

That feels like it should just be an added bonus that a team gets to take advantage of though. I mean if a team scored on a delayed penalty before the goalie was able to reach the bench or before the 6th skater was able to join the attack then they never really got that advantage AND they don't get their deserved powerplay. Almost makes it so the penalized player essentially gets off scot-free, at least for his individual mistake.

Bender

https://theathletic.com/4542179/2023/05/24/pittsburgh-penguins-franchise-nhl-playoff-streak/

Interesting peak into the intrigue of the Pen's front office. Wondering if one day we get an expose like that on the Leafs' recent machinations.
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

Dappleganger

In the 2016 NHL Draft, Canadian teams had 7 of the top 11 picks, and 5 of the top 6. Only 1 player from that draft is playing for the Canadian team that drafted them, Auston Matthews. Pretty crazy.