2022-23 NHL Thread

[Nik]

Admittedly I'm not expecting a great deal of rigorous intellectual consistency here but getting a statement like this from a player I think does a great job of highlighting the problem inherent both with the players and the NHL's messaging on this. He is choosing, by his own words, not to endorse "something". But what is that something? Is it just being gay? Or having some measure of pride in being gay as opposed to shame? A word that often comes up among defenders of this position is "lifestyle" but your sexual orientation doesn't define your lifestyle. There are celibate gay people and married with kids gay people and gay people who are out there having sex with a bunch of different partners just as it's true with straight people.

And where's the courage of his convictions? If you think what you're being asked to "endorse" here is bad enough that you're not willing to take part, why would you think it should be welcomed into the game of hockey? Either this is a bad thing you need to take a stand against or it isn't.

Someone really needs to sit down with Gary Bettman and ask him three very simple and very fair questions:

1. Would he be just as open to players expressing their "individual rights" objecting to, say, something like MLK day on the basis of them being racist.

2. If not, what's the tangible difference in the NHL's eyes?

3. If either question 1 or 2 have a meaningful answer, can Hockey really be said to be open to everyone?

At some point the league has to take a meaningful and clear position here.

[Guilt Trip]

Hiding behind a religion that apparently loves you unless you turn gay. Every pe

But they'll honor the military, which literally kills people for a living. I'm a vet for what's it's worth.

Well that's different tho don't ya know. And thx for your service!

[herman]

Would be nice to centre the players that are actively supportive (Dermott, JvR, etc) instead of platforming dissenters

[Nik]

Would be nice to centre the players that are actively supportive (Dermott, JvR, etc) instead of platforming dissenters

I appreciate the sentiment there but at this point it's really more about the NHL's response and stance as an institution than it is individual players and their beliefs.

[Zee]

Pretty big heel turn by Reimer here. He's lost a lot of his old fans over this but gained a bunch of new ones, ok he gained the bigots but still

[herman]

https://twitter.com/marisa_ingemi/status/1637267714019594240
This logo is amazing

[Zee]

https://twitter.com/marisa_ingemi/status/1637267714019594240
This logo is amazing

That's a cool design, one of the better ones I've seen

[Guilt Trip]

Burke says it best....

https://twitter.com/bruce_arthur/status/1637303603970084864

[Bender]

Burke says it best....

https://twitter.com/bruce_arthur/status/1637303603970084864

1000% agree. The Bible says a lot of things so it's funny to me what people decide is the line for inclusivity or not. In the end if you're Christian you should be following Christ who at the time was pretty inclusive as far as the standards of the day were concerned.

And what kills me is there are lgbtq+ Christians (we have several in my own family)! Funny that one Christian refuses to accept another.