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Started by herman, May 22, 2022, 03:17:14 PM
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Quote from: Arn on January 12, 2023, 05:24:53 PMI'd give him a 10 year contract now.
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on January 12, 2023, 06:50:30 PMI have to say, I'm pretty baffled by all this unconditional love for Dubas. You make it sound like he's irreplaceable. That's just silly.Are you satisfied with an endless number of R1 exits? If you're OK with that, then sure, give him (of anyone) an open-ended job. (Don't think this would fly in business school, though).If you're not OK with that, then the argument reduces to how many chances are you willing to give him? I say this should be his last, and I further think there's nothing unreasonable in saying that.
Quote from: Arn on January 13, 2023, 07:21:23 AMBecause I think, overall, Dubas is doing his job of putting the team in a position to win. And it's proving that with the records they're putting up over an extended body of work in the regular season. They're also extremely fun to watch.When it comes to playoff success I still think he's put them in the position to win. Obviously I'm not satisfied with losing, but I am satisfied with the process and progress.
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on January 13, 2023, 03:02:41 PMbut one glaring fault that hasn't been corrected is that the team's glaring faults haven't been corrected in the playoffs (PP failures, sticking with line combos too long). That's on the coaches more than anyone, but it's a management issue and Dubas is responsible. Sooner or later, somebody needs to held accountable for what, I hope you'll all agree, is a woeful record in the playoffs (regardless of their effort or "luck"). Sooner or later, to be considered successful you have to go deep. My line remains the same: R1W or bust for Dubas (which would, of course, apply to the coaching staff too, in all likelihood).
Quote from: Arn on January 13, 2023, 06:01:03 PMI'd agree that a lot of the issues have been around usage of players - being too reliant on Marner/Matthews last year then not having them had reps with mothers so unable to change.
Quote from: Nik on January 13, 2023, 11:43:58 AMLikewise, while it's fair to say that most of these playoff series could have gone the other way with a bit of luck, that's both a positive and negative as they haven't turned in any real stinkers
Quote from: Bill33 on January 14, 2023, 03:53:02 PMI think the MTL series definitely qualifies as a "stinker", up there for the worst in franchise history. If there was was going to be any senior management housecleaning, I think the result of that series would have been a fair pretext.
Quote from: Bill33 on January 14, 2023, 03:53:02 PMI think one thing that gets overlooked is how well Dubas has managed the cap situation since the big 4 got their deals. When they were signed, it was done with the understanding that the cap would go up, and those deals would allow for more roster flexibility. No one could have predicted the flat cap era, and I'm hard pressed to think of any team in the league that was more impacted than toronto - but Dubas made it work, and still continues to this season. I think he deserves a lot of credit in that regard.
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