2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

[OldTimeHockey]

I just heard Roger Lajoie on the fan say most leafs fans would would trade rosters with the rangers.

I mean maybe I'm in the minority but, no.

I'd certainly like some of their players:

-Shesterkin
-Fox
-Kreider
-Panarin
-Zibenajad
-Copp

[Joe]

Ok I'm sure we'd all like players from every single nhl team. The statement was completely trade rosters.

[Bill_Berg_is_less_sad]

Leafs did better against Tampa then the Rangers did last I checked. And they didn't have Point against NY.

[Bender]

I just heard Roger Lajoie on the fan say most leafs fans would would trade rosters with the rangers.

I mean maybe I'm in the minority but, no.

Heck no. They have some nice pieces but they were obviously pretenders.

[Nik]

I just heard Roger Lajoie on the fan say most leafs fans would would trade rosters with the rangers.

I mean maybe I'm in the minority but, no.

I would lean no too, I like our guys and I don't think the Rangers have a single player as good as Marner or Matthews let alone two of them but I think it largely depends on whether or not you think Lafreniere and Kakko can still develop into top tier guys and I don't watch the Rangers enough to say with any confidence.

Because it's hard to get away from the fact that they just had a 110 point season with significantly more flexibility than the Leafs have payroll wise and with what is probably safe to say is a better prospect group. 

[CarltonTheBear]

I take the Leafs too but I don't think it's crazy for someone to prefer taking their shot with a top 1 or 2 goalie in the league in Shesterkin. Especially since there's also a lot of good pieces around him (like a former Norris winner, former Hart nominee, 50-goal scorer, multiple top draft picks who are NHL roster players).

[bustaheims]

Rangers have some good pieces, but swap the goaltenders and I don't think the two teams are anywhere close to each other in the standings. With Shesterkin, the Leafs would be one of the Cup favourites. With Campbell/Mrazek, the Rangers might not even make the playoffs.

[Bender]

I take the Leafs too but I don't think it's crazy for someone to prefer taking their shot with a top 1 or 2 goalie in the league in Shesterkin. Especially since there's also a lot of good pieces around him (like a former Norris winner, former Hart nominee, 50-goal scorer, multiple top draft picks who are NHL roster players).

Kreider is a 50 goal scorer in the sense that he did it this year. I'd bet every day of the week that he never comes close to replicating that.

Also, a lot of their top players aren't old but their core isn't nearly as young as the Leafs. Their young guys are nice but Lafreniere and Kakko don't look like Matthews and Marner. Shesterkin is carrying them.

I think the boat anchor right now is Tavares for us. I think if we redistribute his cap hit more evenly and I'd take the Leafs every time.

[herman]

https://twitter.com/nhl/status/1537152945028050945
End of an era

[herman]

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2022/06/20/maple-leafs-offseason-game-plan-part-1-the-secondary-core-and-team-depth/

MLHS Notebooks are always a good longform read

[herman]

https://twitter.com/ByronMBader/status/1538965923406782465
edit: and of course, my brand
https://twitter.com/ByronMBader/status/1447646441715867649

[OldTimeHockey]

https://twitter.com/ByronMBader/status/1538965923406782465

How many extra ranking points do we figure Crouse received because he's a big boy. Were people still looking for power forwards in 2015?

[bustaheims]

How many extra ranking points do we figure Crouse received because he's a big boy. Were people still looking for power forwards in 2015?

Teams are always looking for power forwards. The bar for drafting one that high has just been raised.

[L K]

I'm not going to bother making a new thread.  The NHL awards show is a joke.   The NHL has absolutely no idea how to market the league.  Maybe having it run by a bunch of 60 year old white guys isn't the best approach.

You would think that they would not have the microphone three feet below the players mouth.   The NHL just finds ways to reiterate how amateurish they are.  Music playing off a guy in the middle of his speech.   But we have time for Keenan Thompson to do a bad comedy sketch. 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/nhl_watcher/status/1539374741382909956
Inflation is spiking the soup market something fierce.