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Started by herman, February 14, 2022, 12:56:36 PM

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Bender

#60
March 18, 2022, 01:51:02 PM
Hagel does seem good but man that's steep.
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

CarltonTheBear

#61
March 18, 2022, 01:54:06 PM
Not saying they should entertain any offers obviously but it'd be pretty funny to see the kind of haul a team like Colorado would give up for Bunting (and his contract) lol.

Guilt Trip

#62
March 18, 2022, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on March 18, 2022, 01:54:06 PM
Not saying they should entertain any offers obviously but it'd be pretty funny to see the kind of haul a team like Colorado would give up for Bunting (and his contract) lol.
Kerfoot has to move the needle for something good...crazy price for Hagel

bustaheims

#63
March 18, 2022, 02:00:35 PM
Hagel's shooting percentage, though...he's probably a 20ish goal guy going forward. Is that worth two 1sts and 2 NHL pieces (even if they're 4th liners)?
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Guilt Trip

#64
March 18, 2022, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on March 18, 2022, 02:00:35 PM
Hagel's shooting percentage, though...he's probably a 20ish goal guy going forward. Is that worth two 1sts and 2 NHL pieces (even if they're 4th liners)?
No but T Bay doesn't care apparently.

herman

#65
March 18, 2022, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on March 18, 2022, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on March 18, 2022, 02:00:35 PM
Hagel's shooting percentage, though...he's probably a 20ish goal guy going forward. Is that worth two 1sts and 2 NHL pieces (even if they're 4th liners)?
No but T Bay doesn't care apparently.

2 TBay firsts is like... 2nd rounders. But getting a middle 6 forward (with shooting) at a cost controlled cap hit for term is extremely valuable in Tampa's contention window. Tampa just dumped some decent waiver bait (who are both older than Hagel?!).
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CarltonTheBear

#66
March 18, 2022, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on March 18, 2022, 02:00:35 PM
Hagel's shooting percentage, though...he's probably a 20ish goal guy going forward. Is that worth two 1sts and 2 NHL pieces (even if they're 4th liners)?

His stats certainly look inflated but you could say the same about Bunting too, doesn't really change how valuable he is. Going from playing with Kane to playing on a line with either Stamkos+Kucherov or Point+Kucherov isn't going to hurt him. If he was a pending RFA in line for a big pay raise because of that boosted shooting percentage it'd be a different story though of course.

bustaheims

#67
March 18, 2022, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on March 18, 2022, 02:11:26 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on March 18, 2022, 02:00:35 PM
Hagel's shooting percentage, though...he's probably a 20ish goal guy going forward. Is that worth two 1sts and 2 NHL pieces (even if they're 4th liners)?

His stats certainly look inflated but you could say the same about Bunting too, doesn't really change how valuable he is. Going from playing with Kane to playing on a line with either Stamkos+Kucherov or Point+Kucherov isn't going to hurt him. If he was a pending RFA in line for a big pay raise because of that boosted shooting percentage it'd be a different story though of course.

Sure, but, without that shooting percentage, the Bolts basically gave up two 1st round picks for a good 3rd liner. They've also traded basically every 1st round pick they've had from 2013 on. It's worked out for them so far, but that much borrowing from the future is going to catch up to them in a hurry.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Joe

#68
March 18, 2022, 04:17:12 PM
Well they have their 2 covid cups so it's all good.

CarltonTheBear

#69
March 18, 2022, 04:35:48 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on March 18, 2022, 04:00:46 PM
Sure, but, without that shooting percentage, the Bolts basically gave up two 1st round picks for a good 3rd liner. They've also traded basically every 1st round pick they've had from 2013 on. It's worked out for them so far, but that much borrowing from the future is going to catch up to them in a hurry.

Oh I'm definitely not saying it wasn't a massive overpayment. 95% of the league would have absolutely scoffed at that price. Tampa's just in a unique position to be able to sacrifice those picks right now. I just don't think his high shooting percentage should be that big of a red flag like it was say a David Clarkson. There's a lot to like about the guy even aside from that. Calling him a 3rd liner would be like saying that about Bunting. Like sure maybe it's true but he's also the perfect cost-effective complimentary guy a lot of teams need in their top-6 alongside their most expensive forwards.

herman

#71
March 19, 2022, 04:16:39 PM
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Bender

#72
March 19, 2022, 04:24:50 PM
Quote from: herman on March 19, 2022, 04:16:39 PM
https://twitter.com/kevinweekes/status/1505289918326743048
James Duthie kind of crying now
God I hate the Bruins. Why is everything happening in the East this year?
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

CarltonTheBear

#73
March 19, 2022, 04:29:02 PM
Surprised it look so long for Boston to improve their left side. It's been pretty weak since Krug/Chara left. This season it's been Matt Grzelcyk, Mike Reilly, and Derek Forbort. Not exactly the murderers row there. So this fills a huge hole.
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