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2022 Blue Jays

Started by Deebo, November 16, 2021, 09:24:51 AM

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Nik

Quote from: L K on November 16, 2022, 02:27:25 PMOverall its' not a horrible move.  Swanson's peripheral numbers are decent and we have him for 3 years.  Losing Teo is tough but we also need to see what he gets replaced with.  The 60 games we would get of healthy Brandon Nimmo wouldn't really be an adequate tradeoff.

My very remote hope is that they use their catching surplus to land the Lefty hitter they need and then use the money to target either Correa or, maybe, Verlander.
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Highlander

I love Teo but his hitting LHP is suspect and a few times during the season it looked like he gave up on a few plays. Going to miss his smile though.
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OldTimeHockey

Was there not rumblings last year about Teoscar being unhappy and feeling slighted? If so, it was probably a good time to move on from him if it helps the bullpen and opens up money.
Despite the very dangerous roster that the jays fielded last year, they were very inconsistent and failed to produce at the level that was expected. I'm not saying Hernandez was the problem, but some changes are needed to the line up. The energy they brought in 2021 was missing in 2022. Hopefully they can get that back.

L K

Kevin Keirmaier is a Blue Jay pending physical.  As a Tapia/Zimmer replacement that's a solid move.   So far the off-season is really kind of meh with the Mets going 2000 Yankees on their payroll

bustaheims

Quote from: L K on December 11, 2022, 09:41:45 AMKevin Keirmaier is a Blue Jay pending physical.  As a Tapia/Zimmer replacement that's a solid move.   So far the off-season is really kind of meh with the Mets going 2000 Yankees on their payroll

Nice defensive upgrade, for sure. The Jays have enough offence to make up for his weaker bat. Just need to add some pitching.
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Frank E

So, thoughts?  The guy is 34, but the term doesn't seem unreasonable.

Also, I think it's Kirk that goes given the All-Star equity.

bustaheims

If Berrios bounces back, the Jays rotation will be a huge strength.
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L K

The good thing about Bassitt is that he has been largely consistent in terms of being an effective pitcher.  He's not a flamethrower by any means but he can locate his pitches and eat innings.  His game is probably one that will age well because he's not relying on throwing past hitters but on hitting the corners.

I do wonder what coming to the AL East will do to his game though.  He has pitched in Oakland and last year with the Mets. Both stadiums favour pitchers.

He has a 2.95 ERA at home last year and a 4.00 ERA on the road.  Over his entire career he has a 2.68 ERA at home and a 4.26 ERA on the road.

bustaheims

Quote from: L K on December 13, 2022, 09:18:02 AMThe good thing about Bassitt is that he has been largely consistent in terms of being an effective pitcher.  He's not a flamethrower by any means but he can locate his pitches and eat innings.  His game is probably one that will age well because he's not relying on throwing past hitters but on hitting the corners.

I do wonder what coming to the AL East will do to his game though.  He has pitched in Oakland and last year with the Mets. Both stadiums favour pitchers.

He has a 2.95 ERA at home last year and a 4.00 ERA on the road.  Over his entire career he has a 2.68 ERA at home and a 4.26 ERA on the road.

He's a heavily groundball pitcher, so that should help mitigate some of the stadium effects. Like a lot of guys in the league, he performs better in the stadiums he's most familiar with, but his road numbers are perfectly good for a 3/4 starter.
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Frank E

What's the timeline on Ryu?

Deebo

Quote from: Frank E on December 13, 2022, 10:01:44 AMWhat's the timeline on Ryu?

Best case is a July return, good chance he misses the entire season though.

Frank E

Quote from: Deebo on December 13, 2022, 10:29:32 AM
Quote from: Frank E on December 13, 2022, 10:01:44 AMWhat's the timeline on Ryu?

Best case is a July return, good chance he misses the entire season though.

Thank you, Deebo.

Nik

With Stripling signing with the Giants today it seems like the Jays might have a second straight off-season where they both make significant moves and don't really get significantly better.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
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