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Started by Deebo, November 16, 2021, 09:24:51 AM
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Quote from: Nik on November 16, 2021, 10:18:22 AMSo the deal apparently has some escalators and an opt-out clause after year 5 but, quite frankly, if he's good enough for length of the deal to the point where he thinks opting out at 33 is a win for him that's fine.
Quote from: Nik on November 24, 2021, 12:52:36 PMSo Steven Matz won't be coming back. He signed what is a pretty reasonable deal in terms of dollars(11 million per) but it's 4 years which seems like a long time to commit to a guy who hasn't put together two real solid years in a row yet. I'm fine with the Jays not matching and was pretty lukewarm on bringing back Matz regardless(Ray and Gray for the Jays!) but I wonder if ultimately not qualifying Matz was a mistake. There seemed to be enough interest in him that either the Jays would get him for the one year at 18 million(a lot of money but low risk) or he'd turn it down and the Jays would have gotten the pick. Not a big deal either way but something to think about.
Quote from: L K on November 24, 2021, 01:44:12 PMThe only thing about qualifying Matz is that I think he probably takes that 18 million QO.
Quote from: bustaheims on November 24, 2021, 03:00:20 PMA QO definitely changes the market on him. Are teams still willing to give him that kind of money if they need to give up a pick as part of it? Does he take a one year pay day and bet on himself for next winter? With the impending lockout, is that even a smart move? Really hard to tell.
Quote from: Dappleganger on November 24, 2021, 03:51:39 PMI didn't want Matz at $18.9m. Especially if it impeded the Jays ability to sign Max Scherzer.
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