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Started by Darryl, January 03, 2021, 02:23:58 PM

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L K

A nice reminder of how umpires suck at their job yesterday.   The Mets win a game with a walk-off hit by pitch on a ball that was in the strikezone and Michael Conforto stuck his arm out to get hit.

Both the attempt to get in the way of the ball instead of avoiding it and the fact that the ball was in the strikezone should have made it a called strike three to end the inning.  Former Blue Jays reliever Anthony Bass was on the mound.


Heroic Shrimp

Quote from: L K on April 09, 2021, 08:52:53 AM
A nice reminder of how umpires suck at their job yesterday.   The Mets win a game with a walk-off hit by pitch on a ball that was in the strikezone and Michael Conforto stuck his arm out to get hit.

Both the attempt to get in the way of the ball instead of avoiding it and the fact that the ball was in the strikezone should have made it a called strike three to end the inning.  Former Blue Jays reliever Anthony Bass was on the mound.
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1380262367792001025

Pretty obvious, too.
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bustaheims

Yeah, he totally sticks his elbow out. At the very least, that should have been considered a foul ball and a dead play.
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L K

Quote from: bustaheims on April 09, 2021, 03:46:43 PM
Yeah, he totally sticks his elbow out. At the very least, that should have been considered a foul ball and a dead play.

It's not even that.  The rule book is explicit.  Either not attempting to get out of the way of the ball (this one is relative as you don't have to dive to the ground to make that count) or if the ball is in the zone it's a strike.  It's not even up for debate. 

bustaheims

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Quote from: L K on April 09, 2021, 03:59:06 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on April 09, 2021, 03:46:43 PM
Yeah, he totally sticks his elbow out. At the very least, that should have been considered a foul ball and a dead play.

It's not even that.  The rule book is explicit.  Either not attempting to get out of the way of the ball (this one is relative as you don't have to dive to the ground to make that count) or if the ball is in the zone it's a strike.  It's not even up for debate.

Well, yeah, that would have been the right call, but the umps clearly didn't want to go by the book. I'm more suggesting a less controversial wrong call. At full speed, I can see the argument that the ump may not have seen him stick his elbow out, and turning back would be considered enough for trying to get out of the way (MLB has never had a great standard for that). With the pitch being borderline, a wrong but less impactful call probably would have meant the whole thing doesn't create much of a stir.
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Heroic Shrimp

Quote from: herman on May 07, 2021, 09:40:04 AM
https://twitter.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/1390652333776855043
It'll be interesting to see the MVP voting for a player who may not be the best hitter or the best pitcher but who does both extraordinarily well.
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OldTimeHockey

Quote from: Heroic Shrimp on May 07, 2021, 09:59:17 AM
Quote from: herman on May 07, 2021, 09:40:04 AM
https://twitter.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/1390652333776855043
It'll be interesting to see the MVP voting for a player who may not be the best hitter or the best pitcher but who does both extraordinarily well.

It's nice to see a pitcher swing a bat and not look like he's trying to hit from the wrong side of the plate.

Nik

Quote from: Heroic Shrimp on May 07, 2021, 09:59:17 AM
It'll be interesting to see the MVP voting for a player who may not be the best hitter or the best pitcher but who does both extraordinarily well.

I think the issue there is ultimately going to be will he be able to pitch enough innings to make up for in value what he's being cost by DHing. Because while even being a 4 win hitter and a 2 win pitcher would be an incredible achievement, it wouldn't have him up there in the leaders of just raw value.

I could see some people wanting to vote for him because of the uniqueness of what he's doing but I think like any player unless he can get up to 7 or 8 wins he'll be a longshot for an MVP discussion.
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herman

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