2022 Blue Jays

[Dappleganger]

Outfield is complete.

I can't believe that's true. Kiermaier is an often injured and, frankly, not a very good hitter. The Jays can't really be banking on him being their every day CF.

Well I thought the outfield was Springer, Varsho, Kiermaier, Gurriel, Merrifield.😅

Springer, Varsho, Kiermaier, Merrifield can all play CF so I think a rotation of some sort there. No, I don't think Keirmaier is the everyday CF. I see him more as the Springer fill-in (Springer won't play a full season). With Gurriel leaving in the trade as well, I feel the outfield is less than complete.

 

[Nik]

Outfield is complete.

I can't believe that's true. Kiermaier is an often injured and, frankly, not a very good hitter. The Jays can't really be banking on him being their every day CF.

Well I thought the outfield was Springer, Varsho, Kiermaier, Gurriel, Merrifield.😅

Springer, Varsho, Kiermaier, Merrifield can all play CF so I think a rotation of some sort there. No, I don't think Keirmaier is the everyday CF. I see him more as the Springer fill-in (Springer won't play a full season). With Gurriel leaving in the trade as well, I feel the outfield is less than complete.

 

I keep forgetting Merrifield wasn't a rental.

I still think you need to add a bat. The shake-ups and injury concerns during a regular season is one thing but right now if you try to make a playoff-lineup for this team either you need to use your backup catcher at DH(not ideal) or you put a not very inspiring hitter in the line-up. That may be a deadline sort of thing but as is, it still feels like dealing both Teoscar and Lourdes means the team is offensively not ideal right now.

[L K]

Seems like the Jays have come out marginally better than last year overall but will be worse offensively while have considerably better outfield defense.  Going from two of the worst fielders to two of the best will be noticeable.  BVarsho might benefit a decent amount by the shift being banned

[L K]

Jays signed Bo Bichette to a 3-year extension avoiding an arbitration hearing.  Numbers haven't come out and this does nothing to ensure that Bo stays long-term but that's a nice thing to not sour the relationship over arbitration hearings.

The Jays also signed Chad Green who is currently recovering from Tommy John surgery but has been a solid reliever for the Yankees the last few years.  He won't be ready for the start of the season but could be a big add mid-way through.

They released Matt Gage who feels like a guy who did all the right things except get a fair shot at the Majors

1.38 ERA 0.923 WHIP and 12 strikeouts in 13 innings last year in the Majors
2.34 ERA 1.087 WHIP and 46 strikeouts in 42 innings last year in AAA

[OldTimeHockey]

The Jays also signed Chad Green who is currently recovering from Tommy John surgery but has been a solid reliever for the Yankees the last few years.  He won't be ready for the start of the season but could be a big add mid-way through.

Maybe I'm cherry picking here, but does it not feel like the Jays are always grabbing players that are coming off major surgery or injury and hoping they hit the jackpot? Ok, maybe not the jackpot, but hoping the player can regain some sort of form that they once showed? It kind of feels like playing the penny slots.

[Arn]

It'll be interesting to see what the new schedule does for the Jays. Fewer games against the division should theoretically help, but it might also help the others too...

[Deebo]

The Jays also signed Chad Green who is currently recovering from Tommy John surgery but has been a solid reliever for the Yankees the last few years.  He won't be ready for the start of the season but could be a big add mid-way through.

Maybe I'm cherry picking here, but does it not feel like the Jays are always grabbing players that are coming off major surgery or injury and hoping they hit the jackpot? Ok, maybe not the jackpot, but hoping the player can regain some sort of form that they once showed? It kind of feels like playing the penny slots.

Fangraphs has them at the 6th highest payroll in the MLB, without Bichette's extension included. They will be a luxury tax team for the first time this year.

Lots of teams takes chances on players like Green, but they Jays have also been signing players at the top of the FA class like Ryu, Springer and Gausman in prior years. The bigger additions in this off season season have been Bassitt and Varsho who don't fall into the "hoping they regain form" category.

[Nik]

The Jays also signed Chad Green who is currently recovering from Tommy John surgery but has been a solid reliever for the Yankees the last few years.  He won't be ready for the start of the season but could be a big add mid-way through.

Maybe I'm cherry picking here, but does it not feel like the Jays are always grabbing players that are coming off major surgery or injury and hoping they hit the jackpot? Ok, maybe not the jackpot, but hoping the player can regain some sort of form that they once showed? It kind of feels like playing the penny slots.

I think that if you're doing what the Jays have been doing the last few years with the bullpen, trying to build via trades and free agency rather than bringing up young and high-talent prospects there's going to be a lot of risks and gambles taken on arms with potential but whose question marks are the only reason they're available.

That said, the extent to which they do it more than other teams is something I couldn't speak on. I can't think of any obvious examples other than here.

[Deebo]

That said, the extent to which they do it more than other teams is something I couldn't speak on. I can't think of any obvious examples other than here.

Atlanta signing Yates and Seattle signing Giles are two similar signings in the last couple offseasons.

They haven't worked out, but small 1st year salaries, a higher 2nd year guarantee and some form of option for 3rd years  for releivers coming of TJ surgery.

[Nik]

That said, the extent to which they do it more than other teams is something I couldn't speak on. I can't think of any obvious examples other than here.

Atlanta signing Yates and Seattle signing Giles are two similar signings in the last couple offseasons.

They haven't worked out, but small 1st year salaries, a higher 2nd year guarantee and some form of option for 3rd years  for releivers coming of TJ surgery.

Right but I meant other instances of the Jays doing it. I think most teams do it from time to time so I was saying the idea that the Jays do it to an unusual extent didn't strike me as necessarily so.

[OldTimeHockey]

That said, the extent to which they do it more than other teams is something I couldn't speak on. I can't think of any obvious examples other than here.

Atlanta signing Yates and Seattle signing Giles are two similar signings in the last couple offseasons.

They haven't worked out, but small 1st year salaries, a higher 2nd year guarantee and some form of option for 3rd years  for releivers coming of TJ surgery.

Right but I meant other instances of the Jays doing it. I think most teams do it from time to time so I was saying the idea that the Jays do it to an unusual extent didn't strike me as necessarily so.

Yeah, it's probably just me as I don't follow the day to day or even week to week news of the Jays. Just felt like I've heard a few in the last 3 or 4 years that are coming off surgeries or major injuries.