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Expectations for the new arrivals?

Started by RedLeaf, November 25, 2020, 08:34:47 AM

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RedLeaf

With the excitement building to get a look at all the new additions to the Leafs, and the Leafs being part of the realigned Canadian division for this season, there is a lot to look forward to. But when is this thing going to get rolling ?

Without even an official start date to go on, I?m sure I?m not the only one getting anxious for Leafs hockey to begin. (I can only watch so many reruns from last season).

With that in mind, I?m wondering what everyone thinks of all these new additions. I?m particularly interested in seeing which of new additions could really surprise everyone and stand out from the pack.

Who will exceed expectations the most as a Leaf? (I?m not asking who will end up with the most points, but who will be the biggest surprise by being much better than anyone expected)

Joe Thornton
TJ Brodie
Wayne Simmonds
Jimmy Vesey
Zach Bogosian
Mikko Lehtonen
Alex Barabanov
Joey Anderson
"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.." --Isaac Asimov.

CarltonTheBear

My expectations for guys like Thornton and Brodie are already pretty high, so I can't really go with them. I'm gonna go with Vesey. I think he'll end up getting a fair bit of playing time in the top-6 and will be a pretty good value signing.

Bullfrog

Quote from: RedLeaf on November 25, 2020, 08:34:47 AM
I?m particularly interested in seeing which of new addictions could really surprise everyone and stand out from the pack.

I don't know if this counts, but I've been eating a lot of KitKats lately. Like, a LOT.

RedLeaf

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Quote from: Bullfrog on November 25, 2020, 09:18:46 AM
Quote from: RedLeaf on November 25, 2020, 08:34:47 AM
I?m particularly interested in seeing which of new addictions could really surprise everyone and stand out from the pack.

I don't know if this counts, but I've been eating a lot of KitKats lately. Like, a LOT.

Lol. Well if you believe what you hear addictions are on the rise. I?m sure the OCS can attest to that. 8)
"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.." --Isaac Asimov.

Nik


I don't know if I really see anyone wildly exceeding expectations but if there is someone I sort of think it'll be Lehtonen. If he gets a real shot at playing time and shows up as a genuine top 4 type that could raise some pretty interesting questions for the Leafs.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
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Frank E

Quote from: Bullfrog on November 25, 2020, 09:18:46 AM
Quote from: RedLeaf on November 25, 2020, 08:34:47 AM
I?m particularly interested in seeing which of new addictions could really surprise everyone and stand out from the pack.

I don't know if this counts, but I've been eating a lot of KitKats lately. Like, a LOT.

Beer.

As for players, Bogosian is going to take Holl's spot with Muzzin.


Highlander

Rum, Wine, Valium. I hope Lehtonen is what some of the pundits say about him.  I think Vesey will be a surprise, just a hunch.
"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few"
                                           Sunryn Suzuki

RedLeaf

#7
Quote from: Highlander on November 26, 2020, 03:28:48 PM
Rum, Wine, Valium. I hope Lehtonen is what some of the pundits say about him.  I think Vesey will be a surprise, just a hunch.

I agree. Lehtonen could be a real sleeper. Im really hoping Brodie exceeds even the highest expectations , but I'm not counting on it. Either way I hope the most pleasant surprises come on defense!
"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.." --Isaac Asimov.

Highlander

Our D has been a joke, now it is no laughing matter
"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few"
                                           Sunryn Suzuki

princedpw

Quote from: RedLeaf on November 25, 2020, 08:34:47 AM
With the excitement building to get a look at all the new additions to the Leafs, and the Leafs being part of the realigned Canadian division for this season, there is a lot to look forward to. But when is this thing going to get rolling ?

Without even an official start date to go on, I?m sure I?m not the only one getting anxious for Leafs hockey to begin. (I can only watch so many reruns from last season).

With that in mind, I?m wondering what everyone thinks of all these new additions. I?m particularly interested in seeing which of new additions could really surprise everyone and stand out from the pack.

Who will exceed expectations the most as a Leaf? (I?m not asking who will end up with the most points, but who will be the biggest surprise by being much better than anyone expected)

Joe Thornton
TJ Brodie
Wayne Simmonds
Jimmy Vesey
Zach Bogosian
Mikko Lehtonen
Alex Barabanov
Joey Anderson

There?s been quite a bit of hype about these guys but I?m pretty worried they are old/broken and are going to disappoint:

Joe Thornton
Wayne Simmonds

I?m worried about Jake Gardiner syndrome with this one (seems pretty good but expectations are high and he won?t be turnover-free):

TJ Brodie

Expectations also seem pretty high here for 3rd pairing/3rd/4th liners but I?m hoping someone in this grouping outperforms my expectations:

Jimmy Vesey
Zach Bogosian
Mikko Lehtonen

These guys I?m expecting to be replacement level and not necessarily even make the team so anything beyond 5 min/night is a win.

Alex Barabanov
Joey Anderson

Bender

Quote from: princedpw on December 28, 2020, 10:41:01 PM
Quote from: RedLeaf on November 25, 2020, 08:34:47 AM
With the excitement building to get a look at all the new additions to the Leafs, and the Leafs being part of the realigned Canadian division for this season, there is a lot to look forward to. But when is this thing going to get rolling ?

Without even an official start date to go on, I?m sure I?m not the only one getting anxious for Leafs hockey to begin. (I can only watch so many reruns from last season).

With that in mind, I?m wondering what everyone thinks of all these new additions. I?m particularly interested in seeing which of new additions could really surprise everyone and stand out from the pack.

Who will exceed expectations the most as a Leaf? (I?m not asking who will end up with the most points, but who will be the biggest surprise by being much better than anyone expected)

Joe Thornton
TJ Brodie
Wayne Simmonds
Jimmy Vesey
Zach Bogosian
Mikko Lehtonen
Alex Barabanov
Joey Anderson

There?s been quite a bit of hype about these guys but I?m pretty worried they are old/broken and are going to disappoint:

Joe Thornton
Wayne Simmonds

I?m worried about Jake Gardiner syndrome with this one (seems pretty good but expectations are high and he won?t be turnover-free):

TJ Brodie

Expectations also seem pretty high here for 3rd pairing/3rd/4th liners but I?m hoping someone in this grouping outperforms my expectations:

Jimmy Vesey
Zach Bogosian
Mikko Lehtonen

These guys I?m expecting to be replacement level and not necessarily even make the team so anything beyond 5 min/night is a win.

Alex Barabanov
Joey Anderson
Brodie: I think everyone should view him as a capable 3/4 as Muzz and Rielly are realistically our 1 and 2. At this point I'm hoping Muzz doesnt regress with the way he plays his game. He will be an upgrade on Barrie and Ceci in two way game imo. Does Brodie have the same issue as Jake, basically wilting under pressure?

Thornton/Simmonds... I mean are they that bad that they can't be third or fourth liners on their salary? We can't ignore costs here and recognize we've made our bed with the top 4 and some sprinkling on the D and that everything else is the margins. I don't see why Thornton can't play 3C and if he can't we still have Kerfoot who can slide in if required.

Vesey I don't know anything about other than he didn't sign with us back in the day - willing to see what he can do.

Lehtonen - I probably have the most hope in him just based on how on fire he was in the K to start the year.

Barabanov - I don't actually expect him to play right away and don't see him as much of a player. Joey Anderson otoh I do see as an intriguing depth option, maybe can provide a spark on line 4.

Bogo - I'm willing to see what he brings as a 6th D. He couldn't be much worse than Cody Ceci.

I think the depth is much improved. Always some question marks but we aren't likely seeing guys like this at deals like this next offseason.
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

Arn

I Saw Jay McClement Score.

Zee

Joe Thornton - Hart Trophy, Conn Smythe
Wayne Simmonds - Rocket Richard
TJ Brodie - Norris

Does that cover it?

RedLeaf

Yep. Pretty much. All accept your Stanley Cup preditction. 4 straight in the final to win it?  8)
"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.." --Isaac Asimov.

wnc096

Quote from: RedLeaf on December 29, 2020, 10:36:27 AM
Yep. Pretty much. All accept your Stanley Cup prediction. 4 straight in the final to win it?  8)

1st 16-0 run to the Championship in history sounds about right