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Started by hockeyfan1, February 19, 2020, 12:40:48 AM
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Quote from: bustaheims on March 08, 2020, 06:55:10 PMWhat the Astros did clearly crossed the line.
Quote from: Nik Bethune on March 08, 2020, 07:46:25 PMI suppose but I think it's interesting to ask why that is ethically. It isn't that using technology crosses the line between against the rules and not against the rules because things like a spitball/scuffball is against the rules and that's part of the grand tradition of baseball cheating. So is it that they did it and won a championship? That they did it despite being a talented team? That it was a group thing as opposed to an individual effort? Again, it was wrong and they shouldn't do it and yadda yadda and all but it doesn't, like, offend me.
Quote from: bustaheims on March 08, 2020, 08:24:24 PMFor me, it's that they went outside the players and coaches that were on the field or in the dugout. If your cheating scheme relies on people in the stands or the video room or whatever, it crosses the line. I'd consider a video camera to be the same - they're not on the field of play or operated by players or coaching staff. Using them to cheat is going too far. If it can't be done by the guys in uniform while they're in uniform, it's outside the acceptable realm.
Quote from: Nik Bethune on March 09, 2020, 08:30:04 AMLike, the game over the last decade has seen teams spending millions of dollars to get the most advanced analytical information they can possibly get which is then put into manager's hands in whatever form they want so that they can make decisions on where to precisely position each defensive player on every pitch against every particular hitter but a guy in the bleachers trying to steal signs is a bridge too far in terms of off-field influence on the game?
Quote from: bustaheims on March 09, 2020, 09:03:22 AMI think the difference there is that one is a fairly standard practice, and the information being relayed is aggregate data and trends that indicate likely possibilities, while the other is "this is what's happening right now." One allows the team to make informed decisions, while the other is telling the guy at the plate what pitch is coming now.To me, they're quite different scenarios.
Quote from: herman on June 10, 2020, 07:19:53 PMThe Jays kids look really fun. Austin Martin looks like a steal at 5.
Quote from: Frank E on June 11, 2020, 09:29:36 AMWhen does he project to be on the big club roster?
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