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2020 Blue Jays General Season Thread

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Bender

Quote from: Nik on June 21, 2020, 02:49:51 PM
Quote from: Frank E on June 21, 2020, 02:37:11 PM
Again though, still only 93000 cases confirmed in Florida.  They have a population of 21m.

But wasn't there the whole thing of them firing the woman compiling the data because she was actually reporting the right numbers? I'm not sure official data from a state like Florida helps much right now.
Right. They're underreporting like mad first of all. Trump said it himself in his half attended Tulsa rally that he asked States to stop counting as many. Second or all you aren't catching every case, you just confirm the test that came back positive. Some Epis are thinking we could be missing 90% of infections in Ontario. It's going to be at least that in Florida.

The odds of getting sick in Florida seem pretty good to me, especially if you hit a bar.
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

Frank E

Quote from: Bender on June 21, 2020, 11:35:27 PM
Quote from: Nik on June 21, 2020, 02:49:51 PM
Quote from: Frank E on June 21, 2020, 02:37:11 PM
Again though, still only 93000 cases confirmed in Florida.  They have a population of 21m.

But wasn't there the whole thing of them firing the woman compiling the data because she was actually reporting the right numbers? I'm not sure official data from a state like Florida helps much right now.
Right. They're underreporting like mad first of all. Trump said it himself in his half attended Tulsa rally that he asked States to stop counting as many. Second or all you aren't catching every case, you just confirm the test that came back positive. Some Epis are thinking we could be missing 90% of infections in Ontario. It's going to be at least that in Florida.

The odds of getting sick in Florida seem pretty good to me, especially if you hit a bar.

Who thinks we're missing 90% of the cases in Ontario?

Nik

Quote from: Frank E on June 22, 2020, 12:50:52 PM
Who thinks we're missing 90% of the cases in Ontario?

For what it's worth if that were true there'd still only be an infection rate in the province of around 2%.

Anyways, I think the reason we're seeing more re: Athletes is a combination of things. They're still more likely than most to be working in groups, they're probably going out more than most people and being less careful and they're getting tested and having their health monitored way more than most people.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

Bender

Quote from: Frank E on June 22, 2020, 12:50:52 PM
Quote from: Bender on June 21, 2020, 11:35:27 PM
Quote from: Nik on June 21, 2020, 02:49:51 PM
Quote from: Frank E on June 21, 2020, 02:37:11 PM
Again though, still only 93000 cases confirmed in Florida.  They have a population of 21m.

But wasn't there the whole thing of them firing the woman compiling the data because she was actually reporting the right numbers? I'm not sure official data from a state like Florida helps much right now.
Right. They're underreporting like mad first of all. Trump said it himself in his half attended Tulsa rally that he asked States to stop counting as many. Second or all you aren't catching every case, you just confirm the test that came back positive. Some Epis are thinking we could be missing 90% of infections in Ontario. It's going to be at least that in Florida.

The odds of getting sick in Florida seem pretty good to me, especially if you hit a bar.

Who thinks we're missing 90% of the cases in Ontario?
Off the top of my head Dr. Fisman. It works well in terms of working backwards IFR to 0.5-1% which is the going rate from NYC & Swedish seroprevalence studies. Also makes sense given not everyone with a mild case will get tested and there are known asymptomatic spreaders out there. There are likely more epis out there who hold the same view but it's 12:45 and I work tomorrow. We need sero testing to truly figure that part out like what they did in NYC.
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Frank E on June 21, 2020, 12:41:21 PM
I actually think that the amount of sports players getting the virus is very shocking.  I can only assume that they're being quite flagrant with some of the new protocols, given none of them have had to go to work for months now.

I really wanted to believe that professional athletes would be taking this seriously during all their various return to play stages, but then I read what just happened in the tennis world and yeah nevermind.

Highlander

Don't you realize that young men are indestructible? ;)
"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few"
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Frank E

So this MLB vs. PA is getting a little messy...

Nik

Quote from: Frank E on June 23, 2020, 12:54:18 PM
So this MLB vs. PA is getting a little messy...

Yeah, but this has been brewing for a while. It'll lead to a grievance from the union and then an extended labour issue next year.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

herman

#27 #TeamFasstholes

Nik

Quote from: herman on June 24, 2020, 08:36:18 AM
It looks like they sorted it out?

Well, they "sorted it out" in as much as MLB will impose a schedule on the players and the players will file a grievance against the league saying they never negotiated in good faith and there's a ton of bad blood that will spill into the CBA negotiations but there may be official Major League baseball in a month.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

Frank E

They were talking that the Jays may just play out of Dunedin.

Would anyone care if the just played in Florida, since you can't go to the games anyways?

I wouldn't.

Nik

I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

Bender

"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

Highlander

Great article on my favourite Blue Jay of all time, Tony Fernandez in the Star today. 
"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few"
                                           Sunryn Suzuki

L K

Quote from: Frank E on June 24, 2020, 10:03:11 AM
They were talking that the Jays may just play out of Dunedin.

Would anyone care if the just played in Florida, since you can't go to the games anyways?

I wouldn't.

I'm firmly in the "sports probably shouldn't be happening this year...particularly in cess pool states that use politics as a counter to epidemiology and medical recommendations.  So while I agree that there is no value of them playing in Toronto, I'm not particularly concerned about where they play.