Bernier traded to Anaheim

[CarltonTheBear]

They may as well have made one of the conditions dependent on whether or not Bernier could point out South Africa on a map. About as plausible as the actual ones.

[Sarge]

I suppose when you consider it to be part of the Andersen trade (I think the Leafs said as much), it's easier to comprehend. Still, I'm wondering if the picks were worth it. .  Guses it'll be a few years before we know.

[CarltonTheBear]

Buried in that article are also the conditions of the 2nd round pick we dealt to Anaheim in the initial Andersen deal:

(Toronto currently owns three second-round picks next year — their own, plus one from Ottawa and one from San Jose. Whichever pick ends up being the middle of the three will be transferred to the Ducks in the Andersen deal.)

Not sure what would happen if one of those three picks were dealt though of course.

[Nik]

They may as well have made one of the conditions dependent on whether or not Bernier could point out South Africa on a map. About as plausible as the actual ones.

The Leafs get a 1st if Bernier is made visiting chair of political science at the University of the Witwatersrand.

[louisstamos]

They may as well have made one of the conditions dependent on whether or not Bernier could point out South Africa on a map. About as plausible as the actual ones.

The Leafs get a 1st if Bernier is made visiting chair of political science at the University of the Witwatersrand.

APSA is at the end of August.  I might be able to pull some strings. :P

[L K]

I guess.

Washington effectively paid the Leafs to take Laich off their hands and by all accounts they thought he was a stand up fellow.

Although you would hope that a goalie who has similar stats to Andersen who cost a 2nd+1st would be worth something more than cap space clearance.  It's not like 4M is insurmountable when it comes to cap hit.  I mean, I would sooner have seen them move out Hunwick and one of Michalek/Greening to make up cap space.

I'm not sold on doubling down on Andersen as the proven goalie of the future.  Although I do understand that Bernier's value isn't likely to be huge if he only plays 15 games leading up to the deadline.

[Nik]

Although you would hope that a goalie who has similar stats to Andersen who cost a 2nd+1st would be worth something more than cap space clearance.

I mean, sure. I absolutely would hope that but between coming off a bad season and not having a contract anyone trading for him would be in a tricky spot about what to potentially do with him going forward.

I think the Leafs didn't do great with Andersen so you can only expect that to set the market so much. I mean, I'd rather have Elliott quite frankly at his price/asset cost.

[herman]

So pretty safe to say nothing.

We really need a clever acronym for #DubasGMAugust2016. DGMA doesn't really cut it.

These aren't acronyms, but I'm workshopping #FreeDubas or #UnleashtheDubas

[herman]

To Anaheim: Bernier, 2016 1st (Sam Steel), 2017 mid-2nd, $2M in salary savings
To Toronto: Andersen, 4.15M cap space, impossible 2017 pick

[Nik]

To Anaheim: Bernier, 2016 1st (Sam Steel), 2017 mid-2nd, $2M in salary savings
To Toronto: Andersen, 4.15M cap space, impossible 2017 pick

Yeah, after seeing that, Andersen's post game interviews should probably be really enlightening lectures on post-colonial Africa and international monetary policy.

[KW Sluggo]

Calling this a trade is really a case of putting lipstick on a pig.

I would expect they must have tried waivers first and got no takers. This is nothing more than giving Bernier away so I can only conclude they were desperate to do so.

This is the coda to the "let's trade for a goalie" trilogy of moves that began with Raycroft and Toskala.

It is the most immediate proof underlining my concerns regarding the acquisition of Andersen.

I hope the fourth time is the charm and not further evidence of the definition of insanity.

[CarltonTheBear]

Calling this a trade is really a case of putting lipstick on a pig.

I would expect they must have tried waivers first and got no takers. This is nothing more than giving Bernier away so I can only conclude they were desperate to do so.

As others have said, this was 100% a part of the original Andersen trade. It just wasn't included at that time because of Bernier's signing bonus. Anaheim needed a back-up goalie who could play at least 25-35 games because of Gibson's inexperience and Bernier fills that need very well for them. I think that Anaheim is happy to have him.

[bustaheims]

The Leafs get a 1st if Bernier is made visiting chair of political science at the University of the Witwatersrand.

I'm not sure my dad's alma mater would be able to withstand that.

[KW Sluggo]

Calling this a trade is really a case of putting lipstick on a pig.

I would expect they must have tried waivers first and got no takers. This is nothing more than giving Bernier away so I can only conclude they were desperate to do so.

As others have said, this was 100% a part of the original Andersen trade. It just wasn't included at that time because of Bernier's signing bonus. Anaheim needed a back-up goalie who could play at least 25-35 games because of Gibson's inexperience and Bernier fills that need very well for them. I think that Anaheim is happy to have him.

Aside from the fact that neither team has announced it as such and going with the prevailing supposition, it is still a gift. At the very least we should have gotten something (normally I would say more but really I means anything) in return.

As announced, the Andersen deal was within the realm of reasonability, still unnecessary (premature) in my opinion but so be it, but this side bar (if indeed it is part of the Andersen transaction) takes the Andersen trade out of that classification, which is to say, we way overpaid.

We are going to stumble along through next season with or without Andersen and with or without Bernier. There is no way this team makes the playoffs short of a miracle so why pay more salary for the same result?

I have not generally been critical of current management but in this instance, I believe they may an error.

[sickbeast]

Calling this a trade is really a case of putting lipstick on a pig.

I would expect they must have tried waivers first and got no takers. This is nothing more than giving Bernier away so I can only conclude they were desperate to do so.

As others have said, this was 100% a part of the original Andersen trade. It just wasn't included at that time because of Bernier's signing bonus. Anaheim needed a back-up goalie who could play at least 25-35 games because of Gibson's inexperience and Bernier fills that need very well for them. I think that Anaheim is happy to have him.

Aside from the fact that neither team has announced it as such and going with the prevailing supposition, it is still a gift. At the very least we should have gotten something (normally I would say more but really I means anything) in return.

As announced, the Andersen deal was within the realm of reasonability, still unnecessary (premature) in my opinion but so be it, but this side bar (if indeed it is part of the Andersen transaction) takes the Andersen trade out of that classification, which is to say, we way overpaid.

We are going to stumble along through next season with or without Andersen and with or without Bernier. There is no way this team makes the playoffs short of a miracle so why pay more salary for the same result?

I have not generally been critical of current management but in this instance, I believe they may an error.

The real issue for me is the fact that they wasted the first round draft pick.  They could have just signed another goalie without sacrificing the pick.

Considering they unloaded Bernier, however, I suppose I can live with that.