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Started by Deebo, May 25, 2016, 01:07:14 PM

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Deebo

Travis to be called up today:

https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/735528147748167680

DL stint for Tulo? Goins to Buffalo?

Deebo

Looks like its Venditte optioned.

L K

Have to keep the almighty .150 batting average on the roster.

Deebo

Quote from: L K on May 25, 2016, 01:25:49 PM
Have to keep the almighty .150 batting average on the roster.

Quality defender on the bench in case Tulo isn't 100%?

L K

Quote from: Deebo on May 25, 2016, 01:29:48 PM
Quote from: L K on May 25, 2016, 01:25:49 PM
Have to keep the almighty .150 batting average on the roster.

Quality defender on the bench in case Tulo isn't 100%?

I'm no fan of Venditte but if Tulo goes on the DL you can bring him back up.  His value as a defensive player is negligible when he is hitting this bad (and it isn't the first season in his career he has done this).

Deebo

Quote from: L K on May 25, 2016, 01:35:00 PM
Quote from: Deebo on May 25, 2016, 01:29:48 PM
Quote from: L K on May 25, 2016, 01:25:49 PM
Have to keep the almighty .150 batting average on the roster.

Quality defender on the bench in case Tulo isn't 100%?

I'm no fan of Venditte but if Tulo goes on the DL you can bring him back up.  His value as a defensive player is negligible when he is hitting this bad (and it isn't the first season in his career he has done this).

I mean in the case where Tulo's injury isn't serious enough to warrant a DL stint but they want to rest him for a couple days. Otherwise, I agree with you.

We'll see when the line-up comes out today.

bustaheims

Quote from: Deebo on May 25, 2016, 01:39:39 PM
I mean in the case where Tulo's injury isn't serious enough to warrant a DL stint but they want to rest him for a couple days. Otherwise, I agree with you.

We'll see when the line-up comes out today.

Even though he hasn't played at SS much in his career, for a couple games here and there, you could probably put Barney there and come out okay, or even shift Travis over and have Barney play 2B. It's not ideal, but it's an option, and it makes more sense than wasting a roster spot on Goins. And, I mean, if they really wanted to, they could easily send Venditte down when they wanted to rest Tulo instead of making that move now, and have a little more depth in the pen, as questionable as that depth may be.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Deebo

Quote from: bustaheims on May 25, 2016, 01:48:09 PM
Quote from: Deebo on May 25, 2016, 01:39:39 PM
I mean in the case where Tulo's injury isn't serious enough to warrant a DL stint but they want to rest him for a couple days. Otherwise, I agree with you.

We'll see when the line-up comes out today.

Even though he hasn't played at SS much in his career, for a couple games here and there, you could probably put Barney there and come out okay, or even shift Travis over and have Barney play 2B. It's not ideal, but it's an option, and it makes more sense than wasting a roster spot on Goins. And, I mean, if they really wanted to, they could easily send Venditte down when they wanted to rest Tulo instead of making that move now, and have a little more depth in the pen, as questionable as that depth may be.

I'm saying maybe they want to keep Tulo out of the line up for the next few days because he left the game last night with a hamstring problem. If he is out today with that injury (but not serious enough for a 15 day DL stint) and they play Barney and Travis in the middle infield and Barney or Travis gets hurt, then what?

L K

Quote from: Deebo on May 25, 2016, 01:59:09 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on May 25, 2016, 01:48:09 PM
Quote from: Deebo on May 25, 2016, 01:39:39 PM
I mean in the case where Tulo's injury isn't serious enough to warrant a DL stint but they want to rest him for a couple days. Otherwise, I agree with you.

We'll see when the line-up comes out today.

Even though he hasn't played at SS much in his career, for a couple games here and there, you could probably put Barney there and come out okay, or even shift Travis over and have Barney play 2B. It's not ideal, but it's an option, and it makes more sense than wasting a roster spot on Goins. And, I mean, if they really wanted to, they could easily send Venditte down when they wanted to rest Tulo instead of making that move now, and have a little more depth in the pen, as questionable as that depth may be.

I'm saying maybe they want to keep Tulo out of the line up for the next few days because he left the game last night with a hamstring problem. If he is out today with that injury (but not serious enough for a 15 day DL stint) and they play Barney and Travis in the middle infield and Barney or Travis gets hurt, then what?

You move Martin to 2B and Barney/Travis to SS and make do for the single game that you deal with the situation.  Or you put Paredes at 2B and move Barney/Travis to SS. Again, for that single game that you have to worry about it.

bustaheims

Quote from: L K on May 25, 2016, 02:07:13 PM
You move Martin to 2B and Barney/Travis to SS and make do for the single game that you deal with the situation.  Or you put Paredes at 2B and move Barney/Travis to SS. Again, for that single game that you have to worry about it.

Exactly. There are options on the roster that minimize Goins' value right now. With the offence and bullpen struggling the way they are, there's no reason to keep a defensive specialist who's not producing at the plate on the roster. The team can manage for a couple games with a defensive downgrade. Right now, they can't manage with another hole in the batting order.

And, as for Venditte, he could have been sent down to make room for someone else in the pen - like maybe Browning - who's been excellent in his minor league career so far - or Stilson, or some of the other minor league vets they have down there that could potentially make for a reasonable relief arm.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Deebo

Tulo is out tonight and might be out for a few days. I wouldn't want to go multiple games without one player with significant time at SS available, which would be the case if Goins was sent down.

They also might want to ease Travis back in so I can see how having another IF option on the bench at the expense of a BP arm would make sense.

I doubt this is a long term arrangement, but for now I can see why they would do it.

Joe

Not really the same topic but I don't get why they don't give Hutchinson a chance at the 7th or 8th inning... It would be better than the dumpster fire that is storen.

Deebo

15 day DL for Tulo and Loup activated.

hockeyfan1


Captain Canuck

Jays acquire 39 year old RH reliever Jason Grilli and cash considerations from Atlanta for pitching prospect Sean Ratcliffe.

I'm not sure how much Grilli has left in the tank, but there is no doubt the Jays pen needed a bit of a shakeup. Minor move, but at least it's a start! Hard to deal this early in the year, only get the teams way out of the race like the Braves wanting to trade now.