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Stanley Cup Final: Vegas Golden Knights vs. Florida Panthers

Started by CarltonTheBear, May 30, 2023, 08:19:50 AM

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Bender

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on June 14, 2023, 09:03:16 AM
Quote from: Deebo on June 14, 2023, 08:59:44 AMSo it was basically, "We'll expose Marchessault for you, if you take Smith off our hands"

It's also just genuinely possible they didn't value Marchessault very highly and just preferred to keep their defence in tact. Marchessault was due for a massive raise at that point after scoring 30 goals for the first time in a breakout season for him. Maybe they thought it was a fluke season.

Either way, the expansion draft rules certainly didn't force them into a dumb decision there. They could have just exposed one of Petrovic/Psyk and protected Marchessault. Smith, even if he had to go, could have been traded elsewhere as a cap dump.

I mean for the love of god they took Brendan Leipsic from the Leafs. In just two years they only had 8 players remaining from their original expansion draft. They made a lot of shrewd moves to get to where they are.
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

Nik

Quote from: Bender on June 14, 2023, 09:20:47 AMI mean for the love of god they took Brendan Leipsic from the Leafs. In just two years they only had 8 players remaining from their original expansion draft. They made a lot of shrewd moves to get to where they are.

That said, it's a lot easier to be shrewd when you have the cap flexibility they did.
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Deebo

Quote from: Nik on June 14, 2023, 09:25:46 AM
Quote from: Bender on June 14, 2023, 09:20:47 AMI mean for the love of god they took Brendan Leipsic from the Leafs. In just two years they only had 8 players remaining from their original expansion draft. They made a lot of shrewd moves to get to where they are.

That said, it's a lot easier to be shrewd when you have the cap flexibility they did.

A pile of extra picks from expansion draft deals helped too.


Nik

Quote from: Deebo on June 14, 2023, 09:33:31 AM
Quote from: Nik on June 14, 2023, 09:25:46 AM
Quote from: Bender on June 14, 2023, 09:20:47 AMI mean for the love of god they took Brendan Leipsic from the Leafs. In just two years they only had 8 players remaining from their original expansion draft. They made a lot of shrewd moves to get to where they are.

That said, it's a lot easier to be shrewd when you have the cap flexibility they did.

A pile of extra picks from expansion draft deals helped too.

I could be wrong but those seem to be hand in hand here. Like at least some of those deals were the Knights taking on sketchy contracts for picks, right?

I'm not trying to knock what they did or anything but putting a team down in a league with a super restrictive hard cap and give them a blank slate is a huge boost.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

Bender

Quote from: Nik on June 14, 2023, 09:43:57 AM
Quote from: Deebo on June 14, 2023, 09:33:31 AM
Quote from: Nik on June 14, 2023, 09:25:46 AM
Quote from: Bender on June 14, 2023, 09:20:47 AMI mean for the love of god they took Brendan Leipsic from the Leafs. In just two years they only had 8 players remaining from their original expansion draft. They made a lot of shrewd moves to get to where they are.

That said, it's a lot easier to be shrewd when you have the cap flexibility they did.

A pile of extra picks from expansion draft deals helped too.

I could be wrong but those seem to be hand in hand here. Like at least some of those deals were the Knights taking on sketchy contracts for picks, right?

I'm not trying to knock what they did or anything but putting a team down in a league with a super restrictive hard cap and give them a blank slate is a huge boost.

At the same time the difference between the cap floor and the ceiling is $22m. Nothing is stopping teams from crapping out for a number of years, hit the cap floor and take a bunch of cap dump deals etc. It doesn't change the fact that their opening night roster was really pretty bad.
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

CarltonTheBear

https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1669029255475339288

Two weeks ago people thought Bobrovsky could win the Conn Smythe even if the Panthers lost in the finals. Didn't end up getting a single vote (Tkachuk got a lone 3rd place vote from the Panthers).

Bender

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on June 14, 2023, 12:18:08 PMhttps://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1669029255475339288

Two weeks ago people thought Bobrovsky could win the Conn Smythe even if the Panthers lost in the finals. Didn't end up getting a single vote (Tkachuk got a lone 3rd place vote from the Panthers).

He might have if he didn't completely implode for 3 of 5 games.
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

Zee

Did Gudas scream in Hill's face last night or no bro?

herman

#27 #TeamFasstholes


herman

#27 #TeamFasstholes

Joe

Cap circumvention champions!

You know the problem with the leafs isn't the "core 4" or whatever else is troubling them. It's that they have been way too honourable with the cap.

That being said, if the leafs did anything like what Vegas did, they'd be fined and new rules would be put in place.

Arn

Yeh we put Muzzin on LTIR then didn't bring him back for the playoffs. Useless.
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