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Tigger

Hockey jeebus has given Leaf fans a lot over the years, it'll be our turn again.
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

I just asked Santa to bring us Seth Jones in the sweepstakes draft after they cancel the season.

Bender

Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 24, 2012, 06:42:43 PM
I just asked Santa to bring us Seth Jones in the sweepstakes draft after they cancel the season.

Rather have MacKinnon.
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Bender on December 24, 2012, 07:01:09 PM
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 24, 2012, 06:42:43 PM
I just asked Santa to bring us Seth Jones in the sweepstakes draft after they cancel the season.

Rather have MacKinnon.

Agreed. Purely for positional needs though.

hockeyfan1

Recently released mid-season hockey rankings as per Central Scouting...North American & International...

The top 10:
1. Nathan MacKinnon, C, Halifax
2. Seth Jones, D, Portland
3. Jonathan Drouin, LW, Halifax
4. Sasha Barkov, C, Tappara
5. Elias Lindholm, C, Brynas
6. Sean Monahan, C, Ottawa
7. Robert Hagg, D, Modo
8. Rasmus Ristolainen, D, TPS
9. Hunter Shinkaruk, LW, Medicine Hat
10. Adam Erne, RW, Quebec


The next 20...
11.    Darnell Nurse, D, Sault Ste. Marie
12.    Curtis Lazar, C, Edmonton
13.    Valery Nichushkin, LW, Chelyabinsk
14.    Anthony Mantha, LW, Val d'Or
15.    Josh Morrissey, D, Prince Albert
16.    Morgan Klimchuk, LW, Regina
17.    Jacob De La Rose, LW, Leksands
18.    Ryan Pulock, D, Brandon
19.    Frederik Gauthier, C, Rimouski
20.    Valentin Zykov, RW, Baie Comeau
21.    Zach (Zachary) Fucale, G, Halifax
22.    Nikita Zadorov, D, London
23.    Artturi Lehkonen, LW, Kalpa
24.    Max Domi, C, London
25.    Steve Santini, D, USNDTP
26.    Jason Dickinson, LW, Guelph
27.    Ian McCoshen, D, Warterloo
28.    Eric Comrie, G, Tri City
29.    Alexander Wennberg, C, Djurgardens
30.    Kerby Rychel, LW, Windsor

Bender

#35
Quote from: hockeyfan1 on January 17, 2013, 10:52:17 PM
Recently released mid-season hockey rankings as per Central Scouting...North American & International...

The top 10:
1. Nathan MacKinnon, C, Halifax
2. Seth Jones, D, Portland
3. Jonathan Drouin, LW, Halifax
4. Sasha Barkov, C, Tappara
5. Elias Lindholm, C, Brynas
6. Sean Monahan, C, Ottawa
7. Robert Hagg, D, Modo
8. Rasmus Ristolainen, D, TPS
9. Hunter Shinkaruk, LW, Medicine Hat
10. Adam Erne, RW, Quebec


The next 20...
11.    Darnell Nurse, D, Sault Ste. Marie
12.    Curtis Lazar, C, Edmonton
13.    Valery Nichushkin, LW, Chelyabinsk
14.    Anthony Mantha, LW, Val d'Or
15.    Josh Morrissey, D, Prince Albert
16.    Morgan Klimchuk, LW, Regina
17.    Jacob De La Rose, LW, Leksands
18.    Ryan Pulock, D, Brandon
19.    Frederik Gauthier, C, Rimouski
20.    Valentin Zykov, RW, Baie Comeau
21.    Zach (Zachary) Fucale, G, Halifax
22.    Nikita Zadorov, D, London
23.    Artturi Lehkonen, LW, Kalpa
24.    Max Domi, C, London
25.    Steve Santini, D, USNDTP
26.    Jason Dickinson, LW, Guelph
27.    Ian McCoshen, D, Warterloo
28.    Eric Comrie, G, Tri City
29.    Alexander Wennberg, C, Djurgardens
30.    Kerby Rychel, LW, Windsor


Its a real dogfight for the top 4! I've seen Mackinnon and Jones and Drouin and Barkov's rankings inverted elsewhere.

Is it just me or does Drouin seem to be the better offensive talent than MacKinnon? I guess the difference is MacKinnon is a centre and possibly harder to come by than a goal scorer? Or maybe the fact that MacKinnon excelled earlier?
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

hockeyfan1

#36
Hmm...2013 NHL entry draft not seen as having as much depth as last year's...

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/49838-2013-NHL-draft-lacks-depth-of-talent.html

The 2013 draft is not as strong or as deep as we first thought," said one scout, echoing the thoughts of many others. "It's a deep top 10 and an OK first round, but I don't see a lot of depth. Is it deeper than 2012? I'm not so sure."

The 2012 draft was considered the weakest in several years. That's perhaps why 2013 was so anticipated, because of the heavy hitters like Jones and MacKinnon at the top of the list. It wasn't that long ago some scouts and media outlets were selling the 2013 draft as the best since 2003, when the star-struck likes of Jeff Carter, Dustin Brown, Brent Seabrook, Zach Parise, Ryan Getzlaf, Brent Burns, Ryan Kesler, Mike Richards, Corey Perry, Loui Eriksson, Patrice Bergeron and Shea Weber all were taken in the No. 11-49 window.

"The 2013 draft won't come close to 2003," another scout said. "Let's make that clear right now. Take away the first eight or 10 picks and you're looking at guys who can contribute on the third and fourth lines, not the first line."

"It looks like there's a demarcation between the first three (MacKinnon, Jones and Drouin) and the next five or six," a scout said.

Another scout asked the media to practise caution when singing the praises of MacKinnon, the odds-on favourite to go first overall. "He should never be compared to Sidney Crosby (even though they both hail from the Cole Harbour region of Nova Scotia). One guy is a superstar, the other is a projected star. I've always felt the media is placing too high of expectations on Nathan."

hockeyfan1

#37
Re-ranking and evaluating the 2012 prospects (both currently & non-playing) that were drafted by their respective NHL teams in last year's draft.  Evaluations were done by the NHL team's scouts.  Here they are:

1. Nail Yakupov, RW (actually taken 1st by Edmonton)
2. Alex Galchenyuk, C (taken 3rd by Montreal)
3. Ryan Murray, D (taken 2nd by Columbus)
4. Jacob Trouba, D (taken 9th by Winnipeg)
5. Hampus Lindholm, D (taken 6th by Anaheim)
6. Mikhail Grigorenko, C (taken 12th by Buffalo)
7. Morgan Rielly, D (taken 5th by Toronto)
8. Filip Forsberg, RW (taken 11th by Washington)
9. Griffin Reinhart, D (taken 4th by NY Islanders)
10. Andrey Vasilevski, G (taken 19th by Tampa Bay)
11. Teuvo Teravainen, C (taken 18th by Chicago)
12. Scott Laughton, C (taken 20th by Philadelphia)
13. Tomas Hertl, C (taken 17th by San Jose)
14. Olli Maatta, D (taken 22nd by Pittsburgh)
15. Derrick Pouliot, D (taken 8th by Pittsburgh)
16. Malcolm Subban, G (taken 24th by Boston)
17. Mathew Dumba, D (taken 7th by Minnesota)
18. Zemgus Girgensons, C (taken 14th by Buffalo)
19. Radek Faksa, C (taken 13th by Dallas)
20. Tom Wilson, RW (taken 16th by Washington)
21. Stefan Matteau, C (taken 29th by New Jersey)
22. Mike Matheson, D (taken 23rd by Florida)
23. Oscar Dansk, G (taken 31st by Columbus)
24. Henrik Samuelsson, C (taken 27th by Phoenix)
25. Mark Jankowski, C (taken 21st by Calgary)




http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/50530-NHL-scouts-rerank-2012-NHL-draft.html

Bender

Quote from: hockeyfan1 on March 13, 2013, 03:48:19 PM
Re-ranking and evaluating the 2012 prospects (both currently & non-playing) that were drafted by their respective NHL teams in last year's draft.  Evaluations were done by the NHL team's scouts.  Here they are:

1. Nail Yakupov, RW (actually taken 1st by Edmonton)
2. Alex Galchenyuk, C (taken 3rd by Montreal)
3. Ryan Murray, D (taken 2nd by Columbus)
4. Jacob Trouba, D (taken 9th by Winnipeg)
5. Hampus Lindholm, D (taken 6th by Anaheim)
6. Mikhail Grigorenko, C (taken 12th by Buffalo)
7. Morgan Rielly, D (taken 5th by Toronto)
8. Filip Forsberg, RW (taken 11th by Washington)
9. Griffin Reinhart, D (taken 4th by NY Islanders)
10. Andrey Vasilevski, G (taken 19th by Tampa Bay)
11. Teuvo Teravainen, C (taken 18th by Chicago)
12. Scott Laughton, C (taken 20th by Philadelphia)
13. Tomas Hertl, C (taken 17th by San Jose)
14. Olli Maatta, D (taken 22nd by Pittsburgh)
15. Derrick Pouliot, D (taken 8th by Pittsburgh)
16. Malcolm Subban, G (taken 24th by Boston)
17. Mathew Dumba, D (taken 7th by Minnesota)
18. Zemgus Girgensons, C (taken 14th by Buffalo)
19. Radek Faksa, C (taken 13th by Dallas)
20. Tom Wilson, RW (taken 16th by Washington)
21. Stefan Matteau, C (taken 29th by New Jersey)
22. Mike Matheson, D (taken 23rd by Florida)
23. Oscar Dansk, G (taken 31st by Columbus)
24. Henrik Samuelsson, C (taken 27th by Phoenix)
25. Mark Jankowski, C (taken 21st by Calgary)




http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/50530-NHL-scouts-rerank-2012-NHL-draft.html

I find it hard to believe Ryan Murray is still ranked that high.
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

Corn Flake

Now this creates a rather awkward family dinner in the near future:

Stefan Matteau released by his CHL team for rumored behavioral issues ... his dad is an assistant coach on the team.  :o

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=421438

Zee

Quote from: Corn Flake on April 23, 2013, 09:22:25 AM
Now this creates a rather awkward family dinner in the near future:

Stefan Matteau released by his CHL team for rumored behavioral issues ... his dad is an assistant coach on the team.  :o

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=421438

Ouch.

RedLeaf

Someone tell me there's a way, without finishing near the bottom, that the Leafs can get their hands on Connor McDavid. 8)
"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.." --Isaac Asimov.

Rebel_1812

Quote from: hockeyfan1 on March 13, 2013, 03:48:19 PM
Re-ranking and evaluating the 2012 prospects (both currently & non-playing) that were drafted by their respective NHL teams in last year's draft.  Evaluations were done by the NHL team's scouts.  Here they are:

1. Nail Yakupov, RW (actually taken 1st by Edmonton)
2. Alex Galchenyuk, C (taken 3rd by Montreal)
3. Ryan Murray, D (taken 2nd by Columbus)
4. Jacob Trouba, D (taken 9th by Winnipeg)
5. Hampus Lindholm, D (taken 6th by Anaheim)
6. Mikhail Grigorenko, C (taken 12th by Buffalo)
7. Morgan Rielly, D (taken 5th by Toronto)
8. Filip Forsberg, RW (taken 11th by Washington)
9. Griffin Reinhart, D (taken 4th by NY Islanders)
10. Andrey Vasilevski, G (taken 19th by Tampa Bay)
11. Teuvo Teravainen, C (taken 18th by Chicago)
12. Scott Laughton, C (taken 20th by Philadelphia)
13. Tomas Hertl, C (taken 17th by San Jose)
14. Olli Maatta, D (taken 22nd by Pittsburgh)
15. Derrick Pouliot, D (taken 8th by Pittsburgh)
16. Malcolm Subban, G (taken 24th by Boston)
17. Mathew Dumba, D (taken 7th by Minnesota)
18. Zemgus Girgensons, C (taken 14th by Buffalo)
19. Radek Faksa, C (taken 13th by Dallas)
20. Tom Wilson, RW (taken 16th by Washington)
21. Stefan Matteau, C (taken 29th by New Jersey)
22. Mike Matheson, D (taken 23rd by Florida)
23. Oscar Dansk, G (taken 31st by Columbus)
24. Henrik Samuelsson, C (taken 27th by Phoenix)
25. Mark Jankowski, C (taken 21st by Calgary)




http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/50530-NHL-scouts-rerank-2012-NHL-draft.html

I can't believe the leafs didn't take Grigo when they had the chance.
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Corn Flake

Quote from: RedLeaf on April 23, 2013, 10:50:34 AM
Someone tell me there's a way, without finishing near the bottom, that the Leafs can get their hands on Connor McDavid. 8)

Yes. keep Jay Feaster employed for one more year, work on trade for his 1st overall.

RedLeaf

Quote from: Corn Flake on April 24, 2013, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: RedLeaf on April 23, 2013, 10:50:34 AM
Someone tell me there's a way, without finishing near the bottom, that the Leafs can get their hands on Connor McDavid. 8)

Yes. keep Jay Feaster employed for one more year, work on trade for his 1st overall.

Whatever it takes....this kid is the next Crosby. 8)
"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom.." --Isaac Asimov.