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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2012, 11:14:18 AM »
Montreal apparently already has an assistant GM , I guess they forgot to fire him.

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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2012, 11:15:30 AM »
Odd seeing as though he'll likely be able to offer up all he can leading up to the draft so really, what's the difference?

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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2012, 11:30:08 AM »
All is quiet on this front, what the heck is going on?

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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2012, 12:29:52 PM »
Odd seeing as though he'll likely be able to offer up all he can leading up to the draft so really, what's the difference?

I would imagine that entails not being about to do any pre-draft work either.
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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2012, 12:32:06 PM »
Odd seeing as though he'll likely be able to offer up all he can leading up to the draft so really, what's the difference?

I would imagine that entails not being about to do any pre-draft work either.

I thought of that but how would the even be policed? Its impossible. 

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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2012, 12:35:40 PM »
Odd seeing as though he'll likely be able to offer up all he can leading up to the draft so really, what's the difference?

I would imagine that entails not being about to do any pre-draft work either.

I thought of that but how would the even be policed? Its impossible. 

Maybe so, but it'd also be impossible really to police Dudley not being involved at the draft even if he isn't at the table. He's just a phone call/e-mail/text away still. I think this is all pretty much being policed by the honour system.
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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2012, 12:37:03 PM »
I thought of that but how would the even be policed? Its impossible.

Well, he wouldn't be allowed to take any of the data he collected with him - so, any video he has, any scouting reports, any comparisons, etc, would be unavailable to him. He'd be relying purely on his own memory. Also, you know, the fact that Dudley's an honourable man and such. It's difficult to police, but, not impossible. He could "join" the Habs front office before the draft, but not actually start working for them until after.
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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2012, 12:39:30 PM »
Odd seeing as though he'll likely be able to offer up all he can leading up to the draft so really, what's the difference?

I would imagine that entails not being about to do any pre-draft work either.

I thought of that but how would the even be policed? Its impossible. 

Maybe so, but it'd also be impossible really to police Dudley not being involved at the draft even if he isn't at the table. He's just a phone call/e-mail/text away still. I think this is all pretty much being policed by the honour system.

Yeah, I'm not sure I like that.

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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2012, 12:41:28 PM »
He could "join" the Habs front office before the draft, but not actually start working for them until after.

Who would know if he did?

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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2012, 12:42:25 PM »
Who would know if he did?

People. There's always someone with loose lips. These things do get out.
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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2012, 12:44:32 PM »
Who would know if he did?

People. There's always someone with loose lips. These things do get out.

And if they did, I'm sure the Leafs would have the right to request that Montreal be penalized.
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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2012, 12:45:27 PM »
And if they did, I'm sure the Leafs would have the right to request that Montreal be penalized.

And if you're Montreal the risk there probably outweighs the reward of having Dudley around for the draft.
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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2012, 12:56:01 PM »
I thought of that but how would the even be policed? Its impossible.

Well, he wouldn't be allowed to take any of the data he collected with him - so, any video he has, any scouting reports, any comparisons, etc, would be unavailable to him. He'd be relying purely on his own memory. Also, you know, the fact that Dudley's an honourable man and such. It's difficult to police, but, not impossible. He could "join" the Habs front office before the draft, but not actually start working for them until after.

No doubt in his and every other executive's contract in sports (and everywhere else for that matter) are very iron clad confidentiality clauses.  If they move on they are bound to not disclose any knowledge of their former employer and their plans.

If Dudley got caught breaking the confidentiality rules on something like this and they bury their chances of ever working in the league again. It's a tight knit group and he would be blackballed in a flash.  No to mention the mess the team would be in as well.

Honestly, I would have preferred that he was at the Leafs table contributing than this.

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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2012, 05:34:42 PM »
Yeah, this is nothing short of a big loss to the front office.
RE: Not being able to take date he collected...I'm sure he can't but it doesn't mean that he still has extensive knowledge of things and that a few select emails can be placed to "take a better look at" a certain player.  It would be hard to prove that it wasn't happening.

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Re: TSN: Rick Dudley expected to join Montreal as Assistant GM
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2012, 05:34:42 PM »