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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2012, 01:54:08 PM »
Burke has to pick a centre. Please no D, we have plenty of D prospects. Grigorenko is obviously most talented, but Galchenyuk would be nice pick too. I guess Burke would prefer taking American prospect over Russian, especially if there are some reports that Grigorenko has work-ethic issues (meaning not exactely Carlyle type of player).

Filip Forsberg.  That is all.

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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2012, 02:00:40 PM »

Filip Forsberg.  That is all.

I'm behind on my homework. That said, I keep thinking this draft's Filatov. Why? I have no idea. It certainly isn't based on anything tangible.       

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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2012, 03:02:01 PM »

Filip Forsberg.  That is all.

I'm behind on my homework. That said, I keep thinking this draft's Filatov. Why? I have no idea. It certainly isn't based on anything tangible.       

I keep thinking this years MSP.

Hands not quite fully caught up to the rest of him?  I don't know.  To be honest, I don't think many of us do considering we don't get to see him ever.

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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2012, 03:16:06 PM »
It's a bad year to have a top pick (of course!).

A lot of the top end prospects have issues. 

I don't really think that's a fair statement to say. This draft appears to actually have very good talent up top, it's later on where it apparently drops off.

Galchenyuk had the injury thing, sure, but based on his play in the playoffs so far it doesn't seem to have effected his game much. At worst, he'll probably just have to stay in the OHL for another season instead of making the jump right away to the NHL.

I think the Grigorenko criticisms are overblown. Those who question his will seem to be in the minority, and I'm a little skeptical that they have only seemed to pop up in the last couple of months or so. Even still, maybe the Q just isn't challenging enough for him. His combination of size and talent is too appealing to pass up I think.

As for Faksa and Gaunce, while they may be the next two best centremen, they certainly aren't the new two best players available. There's a number of defencemen who all have very high-end potential and it'd be disappointing to see them passed up for one of those centres in the top-5.

If we pick smart I think we're going to get a heck of a player anywhere in the top-5.
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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2012, 03:33:40 PM »
I know this is an NHL type topic, but it is also the best Leafs topic I can think of these days.

First we have the lottery on April 10th. How does this work exactly? Is there a lottery for the # 1 pick and then everyone else falls in line behind that or is it possible that # 1 stays # 1 and yet still have # 4 move to # 3 etc.?

Then we have the draft on June 22nd and 23rd from Pittsburgh.

What are the latest prognostications on the order of the draft etc?

I am hoping that the Leafs fall to a spot that does not only give them a godo pick, but a great pick. How many in this years draft are expected to be great picks? Two? Three?



Potvin posted a few links yesterday that you might want to check out:

http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/
http://thehockeywriters.com/2012-nhl-entry-draft-guide-the-next-ones/
http://www.nhl.com/ice/eventhome.htm?location=/draft/2012

That Hockey Writers link has a few in-depth profiles on some of the top prospects, including Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Dumba, and Trouba.

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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2012, 04:09:26 PM »
I would think (hope) the Leafs will stick with taking the best player available.

Assuming we draft top 3, would anyone trade that pick for JVR?

I'm hoping the Leafs might be able to trade some guys - Armstrong, Connolly, perhaps Mac - for draft picks and cap room.  Take some higher risk/higher payoff picks at the draft and use the cap space to sign some skill and toughness.
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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2012, 04:12:13 PM »

Assuming we draft top 3, would anyone trade that pick for JVR?


No chance in hell.

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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2012, 04:14:55 PM »
Agreed, NEVER. we keep this one.

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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2012, 04:16:01 PM »

Assuming we draft top 3, would anyone trade that pick for JVR?


No chance in hell.

What if they took Komi in the deal??
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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2012, 04:18:01 PM »
Agreed, NEVER. we keep this one.

Yeah, if the brass feels a "franchise player" is available when we draft, you keep the pick. That said, I'm open to moving the pick if it's low enough where they feel that guy just isn't available anymore.

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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2012, 04:18:53 PM »

Assuming we draft top 3, would anyone trade that pick for JVR?


No chance in hell.

What if they took Komi in the deal??

Still no. There are other ways to deal with Komi.

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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2012, 04:22:24 PM »

Assuming we draft top 3, would anyone trade that pick for JVR?


No chance in hell.

What if they took Komi in the deal??

Still no. There are other ways to deal with Komi.

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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2012, 04:25:36 PM »

Assuming we draft top 3, would anyone trade that pick for JVR?


No chance in hell.

What if they took Komi in the deal??

Still no. There are other ways to deal with Komi.

Tonya?  Tonya Harding?  Is that you???

Well, I was thinking buyout or some sort of miracle trade where we don't have to give up much to rid ourselves of him but hey, whatever works I guess.

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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2012, 08:52:14 PM »
Assuming we draft top 3, would anyone trade that pick for JVR?

Nope. My guess is, if he were in this draft, he wouldn't crack the top 5. The top end of this year's draft is really really good. The problem is that after that, there appears to be nothing all that interesting. It's like there's an entire middle tier or two of players that would be found in most drafts that are missing from this draft.
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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2012, 09:09:57 PM »
Assuming we draft top 3, would anyone trade that pick for JVR?

Nope. My guess is, if he were in this draft, he wouldn't crack the top 5. The top end of this year's draft is really really good. The problem is that after that, there appears to be nothing all that interesting. It's like there's an entire middle tier or two of players that would be found in most drafts that are missing from this draft.

Well in the 2nd round there'll probably be Frk, Marcantouni, Wilson, maybe Subban (if not Dansk)...perhaps a few of Samuelson, Finn, Sissons, and Ebert.

Frk was supposed to be a top 10 pick, till he got concussed or whatever.

I think the Leafs should target a goalie with their 2nd. Vasilevski is probably gone, but Subban might be there, and if not...Dansk will in all likelihood be there.

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Re: 2012 NHL Entry Draft
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2012, 09:09:57 PM »