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Offline Frank E

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« Reply #150 on: July 27, 2018, 02:10:35 PM »
Hans approves.

I think that might be Cliff Fletcher.

Good call.  You can tell it's him because he insisted on having it done as a daguerreotype.

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« Reply #151 on: July 27, 2018, 02:13:45 PM »
They're just dying for Leafs content over at tsn.ca:

https://www.tsn.ca/moore-not-expecting-to-re-sign-with-leafs-1.1149026

I'd like to take this moment to announce that I also won't be signing with the Leafs.

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« Reply #152 on: July 27, 2018, 02:23:46 PM »
They're just dying for Leafs content over at tsn.ca:

https://www.tsn.ca/moore-not-expecting-to-re-sign-with-leafs-1.1149026

I'd like to take this moment to announce that I also won't be signing with the Leafs.

Let tsn.ca know.  They'll write up a little thing for you and post it right on the main page.

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« Reply #153 on: July 27, 2018, 03:10:10 PM »
They're just dying for Leafs content over at tsn.ca:

https://www.tsn.ca/moore-not-expecting-to-re-sign-with-leafs-1.1149026

I'd like to take this moment to announce that I also won't be signing with the Leafs.
In all seriousness, I don't hate Moore as a player that pops in out of the line up as an injury backup. I rather have Moore sitting in the press box then a developing prospect.

Assuming healthy who are our pressbox players? Levio/Carrick/Borgman/Gauthier?
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« Reply #154 on: July 27, 2018, 03:24:27 PM »
Here's my projection, based on nothing:

$11.25  X 7
$7.7 X 6
$6.67 X 6

The deals expire once guys are 28 years old: lots of UFA money/term still available, and staggered so that they can be handled individually. 

They'll do for Nylander and Marner what they did for Tavares with the max signing bonus and lock-out proof them, but only for that potential lock-out season/CBA ending year.  The other years will have a smattering of $3m-$4m in signing bonus component.

Matthews gets the full Tavares signing bonus laden package.

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« Reply #155 on: July 27, 2018, 05:39:08 PM »
5x7.0
5x7.0
5x7.0

All three drink the Dubas koolaid and take less money on the cap to help the team win over the next half decade. 

All three suspiciously start appearing in just about every major commercial campaign in Canada.

Dubas promises to make them whole on the next deals after they’ve won multiple cups.


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« Reply #156 on: July 27, 2018, 06:24:17 PM »
5x7.0
5x7.0
5x7.0

All three drink the Dubas koolaid and take less money on the cap to help the team win over the next half decade. 

All three suspiciously start appearing in just about every major commercial campaign in Canada.

Dubas promises to make them whole on the next deals after they’ve won multiple cups.
Sell them equity into the company empire! Far more than a paltry 10 to 12 million
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« Reply #157 on: August 10, 2018, 09:38:44 PM »
This is a tactical inefficiency that should be exploited more readily:

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« Reply #158 on: August 11, 2018, 09:16:35 AM »
This is a tactical inefficiency that should be exploited more readily:

It certainly gives you a lot more reach and more control of the puck while reaching.

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« Reply #159 on: August 11, 2018, 11:04:21 AM »
This is a tactical inefficiency that should be exploited more readily:

It certainly gives you a lot more reach and more control of the puck while reaching.

And attacking from a dimension that’s not normally accounted for from that side. It’s rare to get that kind of time and space and he lucked out scooping a puck on edge.

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« Reply #160 on: August 11, 2018, 12:18:13 PM »
This is a tactical inefficiency that should be exploited more readily:

It certainly gives you a lot more reach and more control of the puck while reaching.

And attacking from a dimension that’s not normally accounted for from that side. It’s rare to get that kind of time and space and he lucked out scooping a puck on edge.

He certainly did. The puck rolled at just the right time to get the quick scoop. The process is quite a bit longer if you do it while the puck is flat on the ice

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« Reply #161 on: August 13, 2018, 05:18:53 AM »
How many actually believe this?:


It is in fact a very well-written, well-researched piece on Leivo and why he may be a Leaf version of  a Jonathan Marchassault sample type player.

Checking moneypuck.com myself, with a minimum of 131 minutes playing time, Leivo was second to Matthews in the "x goals in 60" for the 2016-2017 season among Leaf forwards:
                         
                                         x goals in
                                         60 minutes

C Auston Matthews      1.3   (1st)
L Josh Leivo                   1.06 (2nd)


However, looking at that same column with the same minimum minutes, Leivo was ninth in that same column ("x goals in 60") for the 2017-2018 season among Leaf forwards:

                                        x goals in
                                        60 minutes

C Auston Matthews     1.09  (1st)
L Josh Leivo                  0.71 (9th)


Let's not forget these are small sample stats, since Leivo hasn't played much to begin with.
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« Reply #162 on: August 13, 2018, 09:51:27 AM »
The main difference that makes me balk at the Leivo/Marchessault comparison is skating.

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« Reply #163 on: August 13, 2018, 05:41:21 PM »
The main difference that makes me balk at the Leivo/Marchessault comparison is skating.

Just the skating, herman?

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« Reply #164 on: August 14, 2018, 09:09:33 AM »
The main difference that makes me balk at the Leivo/Marchessault comparison is skating.

Just the skating, herman?

Stylistically, in the OZ, they're pretty similar as opportunistic RH shooters. Leivo is a bigger body, but Marchessault is faster on the rush, more laterally agile, and sneakier in finding soft ice. i.e. Marchessault creates more of his own opportunities due to his mobility. Leivo is a similar level in terms of raw finish, but very dependent for chance generation.

It's why they both struggled with bottom-6 linemates, but Marchessault, when given the chance and time, has flourished with skilled partners. Leivo would be very productive across from Nylander, or Marner, or Kadri, but he is perceived to give up more than he scores over the likes of Johnsson and Hyman and Marleau.

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« Reply #164 on: August 14, 2018, 09:09:33 AM »