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Re: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - Playoffs Edition
« Reply #315 on: April 20, 2018, 10:58:59 PM »
I can't see the Leafs bringing JVR or Bozak back.

I can see Bozak coming back on a cheap deal, but only if the Leafs don't sign Tavares or Thornton. On JvR, I think they look for a cheaper piece - a 20ish goal winger who is better defensively. Not sure who might be available to fit that mold, but I imagine there's a couple potential options.

Not really.  Here are the left wingers that are UFA's in the summer:


I think you're missing Kovalchuk...

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« Reply #316 on: April 21, 2018, 03:48:54 PM »
If the Leafs had a good playoff run and JVR had been instrumental, then yes I would have said there was a good chance he would come back.  But the way things are looking now, he's gone.  They need some extra cap space to pay Matthews/Marner/Nylander.

I view Bozak as extremely replaceable and I'm not a big fan of his.  It's great that Burke got him for nothing, but at this point I think the organization should move on.  Maybe a one year "show me" contract for the right kind of player.  The Leafs have some cap space to work with next season but after that it's gone.

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« Reply #317 on: April 21, 2018, 04:29:35 PM »
If the Leafs had a good playoff run and JVR had been instrumental, then yes I would have said there was a good chance he would come back.  But the way things are looking now, he's gone.  They need some extra cap space to pay Matthews/Marner/Nylander.

I view Bozak as extremely replaceable and I'm not a big fan of his.  It's great that Burke got him for nothing, but at this point I think the organization should move on.  Maybe a one year "show me" contract for the right kind of player.  The Leafs have some cap space to work with next season but after that it's gone.
This summer will be interesting. If they get Tavares your top 3 centers are set and you're just in need of a 4th, I'm sure they'll be journeymen centers out there like Dom Moore who could fit that role, or else try internally with Altonen maybe.

If no Tavares then you'll need 2 centers.

I agree with letting JVR go, replacements are internal already with Johnsson and Kapanen getting bigger roles.

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Re: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - Playoffs Edition
« Reply #318 on: April 23, 2018, 10:24:11 AM »

If no Tavares then you'll need 2 centers.


I guess you don't want Nylander playing Center?

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Re: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - Playoffs Edition
« Reply #319 on: April 23, 2018, 10:40:10 AM »
Our 3rd centre next season will be Tavares, Thornton, or Nylander. You can take that to the bank.

They'll try for the first two, and if they strike out it'll be Willie.
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« Reply #320 on: April 23, 2018, 10:59:46 AM »
Our 3rd centre next season will be Tavares, Thornton, or Nylander. You can take that to the bank.

They'll try for the first two, and if they strike out it'll be Willie.

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« Reply #321 on: April 23, 2018, 04:11:50 PM »
Our 3rd centre next season will be Tavares, Thornton, or Nylander. You can take that to the bank.

They'll try for the first two, and if they strike out it'll be Willie.
So you're saying the Leafs will get rid of Nylander if they can then, right?  Because they're not going to have room under the cap to sign Tavares or Thornton for more than one year.  Even for a king's ransom I can't see either of those guys signing a one year deal.  I could be wrong.

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Re: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - Playoffs Edition
« Reply #322 on: April 23, 2018, 04:13:50 PM »
I'm not sure the Leafs do anything more than kick the tires of Tavares

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« Reply #323 on: April 23, 2018, 04:19:32 PM »
Our 3rd centre next season will be Tavares, Thornton, or Nylander. You can take that to the bank.

They'll try for the first two, and if they strike out it'll be Willie.
So you're saying the Leafs will get rid of Nylander if they can then, right?  Because they're not going to have room under the cap to sign Tavares or Thornton for more than one year.  Even for a king's ransom I can't see either of those guys signing a one year deal.  I could be wrong.

You can absolutely fit Tavares and the big-3 into the cap long-term. Especially if the team can make the 3rd year of Marleau's contract disappear. It's a topic that was looked at here: https://mapleleafsnation.com/2018/04/10/the-leafs-and-john-tavares-are-a-great-match/

It would of course effect the teams ability to get a big name RD but who knows if the opportunity for that will ever come up in free agency.
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Re: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - Playoffs Edition
« Reply #324 on: April 23, 2018, 04:40:31 PM »
I think that Tavares article is sounding eerily like a replay of the Stamkos talk.

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Re: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - Playoffs Edition
« Reply #325 on: April 23, 2018, 04:42:57 PM »
I think that Tavares article is sounding eerily like a replay of the Stamkos talk.

Based on the accounts that we have though Toronto was probably Stamkos' 2nd option after Tampa... so it's not as if the Stamkos talk was unwarranted.
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Re: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - Playoffs Edition
« Reply #326 on: April 23, 2018, 04:48:58 PM »

I swear I honestly forgot Martin was on the team for a second.
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Re: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - Playoffs Edition
« Reply #327 on: April 23, 2018, 05:00:21 PM »

I swear I honestly forgot Martin was on the team for a second.

So is Josh Leivo.

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Re: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - Playoffs Edition
« Reply #328 on: April 24, 2018, 09:19:42 AM »
We've clawed back to a one-game decision. Leafs haven't even played their best yet.

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« Reply #329 on: April 24, 2018, 10:26:44 AM »
We've clawed back to a one-game decision. Leafs haven't even played their best yet.

This is what gives me hope for game 7.  If Leafs can play their best, they should be able to take it.

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Re: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - Playoffs Edition
« Reply #329 on: April 24, 2018, 10:26:44 AM »