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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2018, 12:54:45 PM »
Babcock reverting back to midseason form.

He actually seems to think that getting older and slower is the way to win in this league.

For the most part, I do agree with you. I think Babcock would characterize it as smarter and stronger, rather than older and slower. As always, it is really simple to point out what's not working, and much harder to figure out how to make it work better.

Leivo hasn't really been good in his stints during Martin's exile. However, that is probably more to do with the mid-season form opponents are in and the lack of playing time Leivo has had, per Anthony Petrielli's latest Notebook entry on MLHS. I wish Babcock played him more early on and last season, but there are some things he does that puts him into a very deep hole with the coach.

Moore's major problem in Babcock's eyes are his defensive zone turnovers; this applies to Leivo as well. They don't offer enough on the other end of the ice to offset too many DZ turnovers the way Nylander and Marner do. If Plekanec can get some more practices on the Leafs system under his belt, he should start making a difference. Right now, on a road trip, he's left spending a lot of his game processing on trying to figure out where he should be on the ice.

Edit: Here's the coach on that exact thing Plekanec is going through

Circling back to playing certain vets over the kids, I do firmly believe the sub-optimal personnel decisions these past couple of seasons have an eye toward either sheltering, bolstering, or teaching the young core players depending on their developmental need -- even occasionally holding them back (artificially) to see if they smash through anyway (Kapanen!). What looks to be at cross purposes to winning tonight is still, at least in my opinion, pointed towards winning for 5-10 years.
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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2018, 01:18:02 PM »
Babcock reverting back to midseason form.

He actually seems to think that getting older and slower is the way to win in this league.

In his defence, Martin might be a better skater than Leivo. The top-9 is about as good as it can be right now so that's a positive.

He may be a better skater but I don't for a second think he's more useful than Leivo or Moore in the offensive or defensive end.

Regarding the top 9, I don't think it makes much sense to have Brown and Hymen on the same line. Babcock tried that earlier in the season with Matthews at center and the line got destroyed by the other team, since the opposing side could basically ignore Hymen and Brown and focus on Matthews. To me, putting Kapenen with Nylander makes a lot more sense. Kapenen's speed is wasted with Bozak and JVR.

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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2018, 01:19:53 PM »
Or, you know, Plekanec may simply be on the decline.  But yes, Babs is right that he's still adjusting.  Whether things will "work out perfect" is an open question.

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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2018, 01:35:37 PM »
To me, putting Kapenen with Nylander makes a lot more sense. Kapenen's speed is wasted with Bozak and JVR.

Wasted seems harsh. If anything I think the idea is to make sure the speed is a little more spread out. And when Brown is with those two the common complaint is that the line doesn't have a primary puck carrier, which is something that Kapanen will be able to provide them. That's a line that I'd actually like to see get a solid audition, because it's something that might be able to stick once Matthews returns. Then the 4th line could go Komarov-Plekanec-Brown. Everything else is basically set in stone from prior to Auston going down.

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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2018, 01:45:33 PM »
To me, putting Kapenen with Nylander makes a lot more sense. Kapenen's speed is wasted with Bozak and JVR.

Wasted seems harsh. If anything I think the idea is to make sure the speed is a little more spread out. And when Brown is with those two the common complaint is that the line doesn't have a primary puck carrier, which is something that Kapanen will be able to provide them. That's a line that I'd actually like to see get a solid audition, because it's something that might be able to stick once Matthews returns. Then the 4th line could go Komarov-Plekanec-Brown. Everything else is basically set in stone from prior to Auston going down.

Yeah, if anything, it could help kick JvR-Bozak back into gear with more space (caused by Kapanen's speed) to do damage. Brown was good there for a time (he got them pucks and out of DZ jams sometimes), but they really need a carrier through the NZ to help them shine.

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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2018, 01:47:14 PM »
If the Leafs earn a point tonight, they'll officially eliminate the possibility of the Sabres passing them.
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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2018, 01:59:58 PM »
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Expecting a solid effort, out of the wind and rebound city.

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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2018, 03:50:22 PM »
That Buffalo squad looks awful. Hope that we'll get back to the winning ways tonight.

GO LEAFS GO!

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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2018, 06:28:32 PM »
Criscuolo sounds like an italian dessert.   I'll take the criscuolo and nocciola gelato thanks.


Sounds more like an Italian version of Crisco oil.  :D

Nocciola, si, anytime.  Actually, my favourite gelato flavour is torrone.

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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2018, 06:32:14 PM »
If the Leafs earn a point tonight, they'll officially eliminate the possibility of the Sabres passing them.


That would be Criscuolissimo.  ;D
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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2018, 07:28:06 PM »
Anyone got a YT link? :)
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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2018, 07:35:55 PM »
Pregame tsn hypity hypehype.

Uh, yeah these 4 BUF games are meaningless.
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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2018, 07:43:52 PM »
LOL!

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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2018, 07:44:30 PM »
Great start for the Leafs

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Re: Leafs @ Sabres - Mar. 5th, 7:30pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2018, 07:44:45 PM »
"The Leafs have one of the best PK in the league and —" 1-0 BUF.

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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2018, 07:44:45 PM »