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Re: Penguins @ Leafs - Mar. 10th, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
« Reply #105 on: March 11, 2018, 08:06:57 AM »
Speaking of mistakes, opportunities, and motivation:

On the outset of our sanctioned rebuild, I said we should probably try to trade Kadri, JvR, and Gardiner for rebuild assets because they’d easily garner 1st rd picks and prospects.

I am pleased to be wrong there for the most part. The Kadri we see now is even better than the Kadri that won regularly with the London Knights. This Kadri can control games (for a stretch) and brings it more often than not. Outside of our ELCs, he and Rielly are some of the best value for the dollar in the game right now.

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Re: Penguins @ Leafs - Mar. 10th, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
« Reply #106 on: March 11, 2018, 10:59:27 AM »
 Kadri is an example of what the team should have done with Steen. Be patient.

Same with the Stralman.

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Re: Penguins @ Leafs - Mar. 10th, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
« Reply #107 on: March 11, 2018, 01:09:14 PM »
Kadri is an example of what the team should have done with Steen. Be patient.

Same with the Stralman.

Agreed, we are building on home grown, home drafted talent with a few good outside acquisitions. I can see in 4 years having virtually the entire team home grown.

Good win, tonight.
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Re: Penguins @ Leafs - Mar. 10th, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
« Reply #108 on: March 11, 2018, 07:22:09 PM »
Kadri is an example of what the team should have done with Steen. Be patient.

Same with the Stralman.
That was Cliff Fletcher who traded him with Colaiacovo....Leafs weren't in patience mode back then with Ron Wilson as the coach who had no use for either player.
As for Stralman..Drafted by JFJ. When Burke and his truculence agenda came here, it was bye bye Stralman. Not that he actually lit things up after leaving the Leafs but hey sure could have used some patience with him tho. He was still pretty young.

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Re: Penguins @ Leafs - Mar. 10th, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
« Reply #109 on: March 12, 2018, 09:35:04 AM »

That was Cliff Fletcher who traded him with Colaiacovo....Leafs weren't in patience mode back then with Ron Wilson as the coach who had no use for either player.
As for Stralman..Drafted by JFJ. When Burke and his truculence agenda came here, it was bye bye Stralman. Not that he actually lit things up after leaving the Leafs but hey sure could have used some patience with him tho. He was still pretty young.
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Uggg...Stralman for Wayne Primeau, Cola and Steen for Lee Stempniak....

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Re: Penguins @ Leafs - Mar. 10th, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
« Reply #110 on: March 12, 2018, 11:04:04 AM »
I think maybe we should just wait until the Leafs actually win something before we start saying that keeping Kadri and Gardiner were good moves, never mind JVR.

At this point, this crew hasn't even won 1 single round of playoff hockey, and is an underdog to get out of the first round this spring.

Patience works both ways.

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Re: Penguins @ Leafs - Mar. 10th, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
« Reply #111 on: March 12, 2018, 11:17:02 AM »
I think maybe we should just wait until the Leafs actually win something before we start saying that keeping Kadri and Gardiner were good moves, never mind JVR.

At this point, this crew hasn't even won 1 single round of playoff hockey, and is an underdog to get out of the first round this spring.

Patience works both ways.

Sure, they haven't won anything meaningful yet; at the same time, I don't think that their progress and current achievements are nothing either. No one is crowning this pleasant retrospective as the end goal, pat yourself on the back, time to go home either. It's just a sign of positive steps forward in the rebuild of the franchise (at least with respect to Kadri), particularly with the front office taking development seriously.

If you look at some of the other tank teams that have crashed and burned around us, they stripped their teams down to the skate blades and are having a lot of difficulty climbing back out of the pit. At least a couple of them have had the same, if not far greater lottery luck than we did. Continually trying to cycle out their former top end picks to fill holes has further crippled their chances.

I think Kadri, JvR, and Gardiner (and Bozak and Komarov) have been very good insulation for the likes of Rielly and the Big Three to grow their game without confidence-crushing seasons. Furthermore, these vets are even stronger trade chips now than they were at the end of 2014 (haha, JvR :| ) if we find the need to part with them.

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Re: Penguins @ Leafs - Mar. 10th, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590
« Reply #111 on: March 12, 2018, 11:17:02 AM »