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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2018, 03:42:42 PM »
Is the team even worse if they add McDonagh to the defense

Rielly - McDonagh
Gardiner - Dermott
Hainsey - Zaitsev

Maybe graduate Johnson to the 3rd line + whatever NHL ready asset you got from the JVR trade that wasn't shipped for McDonagh. 

The team probably comes out better in the short term let along the long term.

If you held onto Bozak and Komarov and traded JVR to Nashville for Fabbro+ and Kapanen+ to New York for McDonagh I think you can easily make the argument that the team technically comes out ahead. It's moving Bozak and Komarov that would put a pretty big ding in our bottom-6 because we'd be losing a fair amount of forward depth (unless you decide to trade Fabbro to New York instead of Kapanen).

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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2018, 04:09:35 PM »

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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2018, 05:08:52 PM »

Should have done this with Kessel...

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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2018, 05:24:40 PM »

Should have done this with Kessel...

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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2018, 06:00:14 PM »

lol

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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2018, 06:01:55 PM »
Pays to do your work ahead of the deadline, though.

Note to self on the Karlsson/Ryan potential deal too.

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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2018, 06:25:25 PM »

Does it strike anyone else as it being sort of indictment of the realities of the current CBA that a team like Vegas who, crazy as it seems, is leading the West would help out a team like Pittsburgh who figure to be a factor in the playoffs?
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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2018, 06:27:32 PM »
Just theorizing about the potential hang up here.
OTT --> VGK --> PIT

The initial paper trade still has to be legitimate: i.e. fit the cap (it should, as VGK has 7M-ish in space), fit the contract and reserve list limits (they're at 43/50 contracts and 53/90 on the reserve list), and I assume it also has to fit the roster limit (they're at 23/23 today).

So to pull this off, it can't just be 50% of Brassard's contract bouncing to Vegas temporarily for picks, before his direct flight to Pittsburgh. Ian Cole exits the Penguins lineup (as well as his cap hit), so the move is square on their end. I think there's got to be a roster move of some sort for Vegas.
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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2018, 06:37:04 PM »

Which also means Melnyk has to spend more than he thought he had to as of 3 hours ago.

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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2018, 07:01:37 PM »

lol
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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2018, 07:05:39 PM »
I'm interested to see what Vegas gets out of this , like why help out the Pens like Nik suggests?

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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2018, 09:20:11 PM »
https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/penguins-acquire-brassard-in-three-team-trade/c-296285780

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The Pittsburgh Penguins have acquired forward Derick Brassard in a three-team trade with the Ottawa Senators and Vegas Golden Knights, it was announced today by executive vice president and general manager Jim Rutherford.

The Penguins also received a 2018 third-round draft pick and prospect forward Vincent Dunn from the Senators; and the Pens also received prospect forward Tobias Lindberg from the Golden Knights.

Pittsburgh traded defenseman Ian Cole, goalie Filip Gustavsson, a 2018 first-round draft pick and a 2019 third-round selection to the Senators.

The Penguins sent forward Ryan Reaves and a 2018 fourth-round draft pick originally acquired from Vancouver to the Golden Knights. Vegas is also retaining 40% of Brassard's salary this season.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2018, 09:23:10 PM by bustaheims »
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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2018, 09:27:06 PM »
So Vegas:

- Are eating 3 million or so in salary
- Helping out potential finals opponent

And get

- Ryan Reaves
- A pick outside the top 100

So.....score?
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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2018, 09:33:41 PM »
So Vegas:

- Are eating 3 million or so in salary
- Helping out potential finals opponent

And get

- Ryan Reaves
- A pick outside the top 100

So.....score?

Yeah, not sure what Vegas gets out of this, unless there was some sort of commitment to future considerations of some kind.
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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2018, 09:36:48 PM »
Pittsburgh manages to save money on the cap this season with this deal. Cole + Reaves = $3.375M. Brassard at 60%= $3M. They save the prorated equivalent of $375K.
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Re: Brassard to Penguins
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2018, 09:36:48 PM »