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Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2017, 11:10:59 AM »
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Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2017, 01:00:33 PM »
For me, of Komarov, JVR and Bozak, it is easiest to decide to get rid of Komarov.  Slide in Leivo and I don’t see the team losing much.  By the same token, I don’t see much coming back for him.  If I were an opposing GM, I wouldn’t want to give up more than a 4th or maybe a 3rd.  In other words, trading him won’t make much of a difference either way. Still, you might as well if you can.

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Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2017, 01:19:48 PM »
By the same token, I don’t see much coming back for him.  If I were an opposing GM, I wouldn’t want to give up more than a 4th or maybe a 3rd.  In other words, trading him won’t make much of a difference either way. Still, you might as well if you can.

For a little bit of context, guys like Eric Gelinas, Shane Prince and Mike Weber all got 3rd round picks at the '16 deadline. Komarov's no star but he's a PK'ing regular with some offensive ability. He's a step above 6/7 defensemen and fringe-y NHL forwards.
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Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2017, 01:27:16 PM »
For a little bit of context, guys like Eric Gelinas, Shane Prince and Mike Weber all got 3rd round picks at the '16 deadline. Komarov's no star but he's a PK'ing regular with some offensive ability. He's a step above 6/7 defensemen and fringe-y NHL forwards.

Yeah. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, look at what Winnik returned - both as a pending UFA and when signed for an additional season. I'd say that's your baseline for a return on Komarov.
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Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2017, 01:37:48 PM »
For a little bit of context, guys like Eric Gelinas, Shane Prince and Mike Weber all got 3rd round picks at the '16 deadline. Komarov's no star but he's a PK'ing regular with some offensive ability. He's a step above 6/7 defensemen and fringe-y NHL forwards.

Yeah. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, look at what Winnik returned - both as a pending UFA and when signed for an additional season. I'd say that's your baseline for a return on Komarov.

Komarov's point production lately has been significantly higher than Winnik's.


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Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2017, 01:40:17 PM »
By the same token, I don’t see much coming back for him.  If I were an opposing GM, I wouldn’t want to give up more than a 4th or maybe a 3rd.  In other words, trading him won’t make much of a difference either way. Still, you might as well if you can.

For a little bit of context, guys like Eric Gelinas, Shane Prince and Mike Weber all got 3rd round picks at the '16 deadline. Komarov's no star but he's a PK'ing regular with some offensive ability. He's a step above 6/7 defensemen and fringe-y NHL forwards.

On the other side of the coin Brian Boyle cost us a 2nd round pick and Byron Froese (pending UFA).  Without a doubt, Komarov for a 3rd round pick seems rather low but I don't think he'd garner more than Boyle did last year.  Two 2nd round picks was suggested earlier and I think that is a pipe-dream.  If that offer is on the table somewhere, I don't hesitate to trade Komarov despite the amount I've said "keep" in this thread.

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Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« Reply #51 on: November 22, 2017, 02:16:56 PM »
I like Boyle, but I'd say Komarov absolutely has more value than he does. Ideally, Boyle is a teams 4th line centre who isn't quick enough to kill penalties anymore. Komarov's been a part of a teams shutdown line since the start of last season and plays a large role on the PK.

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Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« Reply #52 on: November 22, 2017, 02:54:15 PM »
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Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2017, 03:48:46 PM »
On the other side of the coin Brian Boyle cost us a 2nd round pick and Byron Froese (pending UFA).  Without a doubt, Komarov for a 3rd round pick seems rather low but I don't think he'd garner more than Boyle did last year.  Two 2nd round picks was suggested earlier and I think that is a pipe-dream.  If that offer is on the table somewhere, I don't hesitate to trade Komarov despite the amount I've said "keep" in this thread.

In his last three years seasons, Komarov racked up around 450 penalty minutes while scoring at a .45 ppg pace. Comparatively, Boyle played less on the PK(in more games) and scored at a significantly lower pace(.30).

I don't exactly know what the offer would be but I think a pretty compelling case can be made that Komarov is more valuable than Boyle.
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Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2017, 05:56:23 PM »
On the other side of the coin Brian Boyle cost us a 2nd round pick and Byron Froese (pending UFA).  Without a doubt, Komarov for a 3rd round pick seems rather low but I don't think he'd garner more than Boyle did last year.  Two 2nd round picks was suggested earlier and I think that is a pipe-dream.  If that offer is on the table somewhere, I don't hesitate to trade Komarov despite the amount I've said "keep" in this thread.

In his last three years seasons, Komarov racked up around 450 penalty minutes while scoring at a .45 ppg pace. Comparatively, Boyle played less on the PK(in more games) and scored at a significantly lower pace(.30).

I don't exactly know what the offer would be but I think a pretty compelling case can be made that Komarov is more valuable than Boyle.

And I've got Winnik at .29ppg since beginning of 2015-2016 during regular season games.

With the lovely user experience/ease of use of nhl.com stats, I'm having trouble getting his PK time, but I imagine it's not as significant as Komarov's.

I think Komarov is a significantly more valuable piece than either Winnik or Boyle.

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Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« Reply #55 on: November 22, 2017, 06:49:33 PM »
Ok... Maybe a 2nd then?  Certainly, I'll take it if someone is offering it.

I guess I don't appreciate what Komorov brings to the table all that well and he seems so replaceable here via fringe NHLers that I'm wondering who is going to pony up for him ...

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Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« Reply #56 on: November 22, 2017, 07:17:30 PM »
And I've got Winnik at .29ppg since beginning of 2015-2016 during regular season games.

With the lovely user experience/ease of use of nhl.com stats, I'm having trouble getting his PK time, but I imagine it's not as significant as Komarov's.

I think Komarov is a significantly more valuable piece than either Winnik or Boyle.

If you want to quickly see someone's PK time, CBS lists it on their player page.
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Re: Komarov: Sell or Keep?
« Reply #56 on: November 22, 2017, 07:17:30 PM »