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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2017, 05:37:53 PM »
How good of a prospect is Lindberg?  I have no issue with the 6th round pick going to Vegas.  However I'm concerned that Lindberg could be pretty good.

I'm not even sure he would have been a top-12 forward with the Marlies this season. Maybe he develops into some kind of role player, but that definitely wasn't happening here.

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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2017, 05:39:53 PM »
Well they had to expose him or Varlamov and they decided on Varlamov (even though Vegas almost definitely wouldn't have picked him since they already basically had Fleury and he would have been too expensive of a back-up)

I wouldn't have left that to chance though. If they didn't think of Pickard as a long term guy there's really no reason to protect him. It's really not worth more than just not insulting the guy you figure to be your starter.
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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2017, 05:44:56 PM »
How good of a prospect is Lindberg?  I have no issue with the 6th round pick going to Vegas.  However I'm concerned that Lindberg could be pretty good.

I'm not even sure he would have been a top-12 forward with the Marlies this season. Maybe he develops into some kind of role player, but that definitely wasn't happening here.

They expected more out of Lindberg as an older AHL prospect and he was quickly surpassed by Kapanen and Johnsson and Grundstrom and probably even Dzierkals. He's the emotional equivalent of losing Scott Harrington, and he's not even as good as Scott Harrington.

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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2017, 05:59:11 PM »
How good of a prospect is Lindberg?  I have no issue with the 6th round pick going to Vegas.  However I'm concerned that Lindberg could be pretty good.

I'm not even sure he would have been a top-12 forward with the Marlies this season. Maybe he develops into some kind of role player, but that definitely wasn't happening here.
They expected more out of Lindberg as an older AHL prospect and he was quickly surpassed by Kapanen and Johnsson and Grundstrom and probably even Dzierkals. He's the emotional equivalent of losing Scott Harrington, and he's not even as good as Scott Harrington.
Well, it looks like the Leafs gave up virtually nothing to acquire an excellent backup goaltender then.  Now they have two decent backups.  There are far worse problems to have. :)

I'm sure they are going to keep an eye out for some defensemen that can help the team also.  Things are really falling into place.  This team looks amazing this year.  They are 4th overall in terms of the Vegas betting odds to win the cup.  That's impressive to come from dead last in the league less than two years ago to this.
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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2017, 05:59:28 PM »
He's the emotional equivalent of losing Scott Harrington, and he's not even as good as Scott Harrington.

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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2017, 06:06:44 PM »
I don't mind giving up Lindberg, but the pick (even though it's a sixth) seems a little strange. Pickard was just on waivers, meaning Vegas was prepared to lose him for nothing.

Clearly Lou wouldn't have included it if Vegas hadn't insisted, but I always hate losing picks.
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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2017, 06:11:24 PM »
I don't mind giving up Lindberg, but the pick (even though it's a sixth) seems a little strange. Pickard was just on waivers, meaning Vegas was prepared to lose him for nothing.

Clearly Lou wouldn't have included it if Vegas hadn't insisted, but I always hate losing picks.

I imagine the number of contracts has a lot to do with this.  I think the Leafs are already close to the limit.

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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2017, 06:19:59 PM »

It's a 6th round pick. I'm pretty sure the Leafs can get another one in exchange for asking nicely.
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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2017, 06:27:22 PM »
Not only does this even out the number of contracts, but if the Leafs claimed him off waivers instead of this then they would have had to send down one or Borgman or Rosen and carried 3 goalies on the NHL roster until they figured out who the back-up actually is. By waiting for him to clear they now have a lot more flexibility because Pickard can go to the Marlies for the time being. That seems worth a pretty meaningless draft pick.

Let's not forget, Vegas wasn't really under any obligation to trade Pickard. They could have kept him as their #3 goalie in the AHL. Especially since they have virtually no goalie insurance right now if Subban falters. I'm actually pretty surprised that they moved him for this return.
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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2017, 06:30:31 PM »
He's the emotional equivalent of losing Scott Harrington, and he's not even as good as Scott Harrington.

This is the meanest sentence anyone's ever written on this board.

He means as much to me as an NHLer on a playoff team.

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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2017, 06:32:06 PM »
Not only does this even out the number of contracts, but if the Leafs claimed him off waivers instead of this then they would have had to send down one or Borgman or Rosen and carried 3 goalies on the NHL roster until they figured out who the back-up actually is. By waiting for him to clear they now have a lot more flexibility because Pickard can go to the Marlies for the time being. That seems worth a pretty meaningless draft pick.

Let's not forget, Vegas wasn't really under any obligation to trade Pickard. They could have kept him as their #3 goalie in the AHL. Especially since they have virtually no goalie insurance right now if Subban falters. I'm actually pretty surprised that they moved him for this return.

The evidence is mounting against Vegas' decision making abilities.

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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2017, 06:34:14 PM »

It's a 6th round pick. I'm pretty sure the Leafs can get another one in exchange for asking nicely.
I know it's unlikely that a 6th round pick turns into a useful NHLer, but every so often one of them scores 20 goals in his rookie year. Kind of like Connor Brown did last year.

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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2017, 06:34:16 PM »
The evidence is mounting against Vegas' decision making abilities.

The guy who traded Filip Forsberg away for Martin Erat is a bad GM? I dunno...

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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2017, 06:37:35 PM »
The evidence is mounting against Vegas' decision making abilities.

The guy who traded Filip Forsberg away for Martin Erat is a bad GM? I dunno...

The evidence is fully mounted and raring to go?

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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2017, 06:49:23 PM »

First Borgman, now Pickard... who's next ???

I really hope that when this trade was proposed by the management group to Lou he signed off on it by saying "Make it so"
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Re: Pickard traded to Leafs
« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2017, 06:49:23 PM »