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Re: Media Thread
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2017, 05:11:44 PM »
We've got a lot of overlap, but I'll be first to admit that the investigative journalism of the intersection between sports and the real world are normally low on my priority list (unless it drifts into salacious territory). I'm interested in expanding and learning though.

Would you happen to have a primer list of such writings to whet my (and probably others') appetite?

As it relates to hockey specifically? Not really. I think there's a real dearth of that out there because there isn't enough American interest to really drive coverage and effectively all of Canadian media is owned by people/companies with vested financial interest in the NHL. To say nothing of certain traditional-suit wearing folk who very much seem wedded to the notion of criticizing hockey being in and of itself to be unpatriotic.
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Re: Media Thread
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2017, 05:14:06 PM »
I hope it works out. There is a space for real proper in depth prose that I don't think you get now broadsheet newspaper have died off and online news is very much video sound bite focused

I'd like to think so too but, and I may be wrong, but it doesn't really seem like that's this site's focus. They aren't really hiring prose-centered writers or doing long-form stuff, they seem more to be inclined towards "Insider scoops" and, you know, game analysis.
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Re: Media Thread
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2017, 05:36:11 PM »
I hope it works out. There is a space for real proper in depth prose that I don't think you get now broadsheet newspaper have died off and online news is very much video sound bite focused

I'd like to think so too but, and I may be wrong, but it doesn't really seem like that's this site's focus. They aren't really hiring prose-centered writers or doing long-form stuff, they seem more to be inclined towards "Insider scoops" and, you know, game analysis.

Yeah as I said I hadn't read it as yet bar the odd free article which is definitely a step up from what you'd see in the Toronto Sun or whatever. The impression I got was that the long prose was what they were aiming for and I do think if they're not someone will or should
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Re: Media Thread
« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2017, 08:49:20 AM »
And today they've announced that they've added a couple of the best U.S. beat reporters around to cover St. Louis and Minnesota:

http://www.theathletic.com/94712/2017/09/06/rutherford-letter/
http://www.theathletic.com/93898/2017/09/06/russo-taking-wild-coverage-to-another-level/

And to be clear, these two left their long-tenured newspaper jobs to take this gig.
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Re: Media Thread
« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2017, 09:18:29 AM »
www.twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/905412480343711745

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Re: Media Thread
« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2017, 09:51:00 AM »
www.twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/905412480343711745

And the 2018 Hart Memorial Trophy goes to... James Mirtle?!?

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« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2017, 09:51:58 AM »
The Athletic does have the standard beat coverage and game day stories, but they get into think piece territory quite often per the writer's specialty.

For examples (from the Toronto side of NHL coverage) of stuff that I like (which you're all probably aware already as I just re-share it here anyway):

Jack Han basically does a long form version of his 1-minute Tactics video breaking down plays from a coaching and strategy perspective, illustrating why a team is doing this and whether or not it is effective.

Tyler Dellow sees something in the video or data, asks a question about it, and then does a deep dive into interesting slices of data pivots. Most recently, his interest was piqued by a coach saying a certain player was good at line changes, so he tracked the plays and shot metrics following line changes and found that Matthews was a cut above the rest.

Justin Bourne gives a coach's perspective on what they look for in players that might make the NHL jump, as well as insight into the human side-effects of asset management. He'll be adding team structural analyses across the league soon as he did before.

Sean Tierney expands on the visuals that he has been putting together, pulling out interesting highlights on passing and zone entry/exit data that's being publicly collected.

Scott Wheeler, formerly of PPP, lends a scouts eye to prospect profiles and now covers the Marlies and the Draft from the Leafs' perspective.

Corey Pronman is basically doing what he did before, but under a different banner, so now I actually get to read it.

Mirtle is also writing much the same that he did before, but without the prescribed formula the newspaper format had. His podcast with Jonas Siegel is still around, but pretty short and occasional.

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Re: Media Thread
« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2017, 04:09:59 PM »
Further to Herman's post, The Athletic features newcomer Karolina Urban (a former player) covering Women's hockey, plus their Toronto assistant managing editor is Sunaya Sapurji, who will also be covering the Leafs occasionally.

As an early subscriber to the Athletic, (I received an extra bit of discount on top of the promo price when I emailed Alex Mather concerning a question about payment plans), I have been looking forward to reading whatever unique content is presented by their very informative writers.

Glad I subscribed, for in the words of Edith Piaf..."Je ne regrette rien!"  :)

Way to go, James!
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« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2017, 05:33:14 PM »
Further to Herman's post, The Athletic features newcomer Karolina Urban (a former player) covering Women's hockey, plus their Toronto assistant managing editor is Sunaya Sapurji, who will also be covering the Leafs occasionally.

I'm interested to see where women's hockey goes with the additional coverage. PPP has been making a concerted effort in this regard as well. Unfortunately the league(s) are in a weird state where it's a bit of Betamax vs VHS (or iPod vs Zune? BluRay vs HD-DVD?) situation. The women's game is all speed and skill, without any of that enforcer garbage; I wish it were more accessible (to someone lazy like me) beyond Olympic events.

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Re: Media Thread
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2017, 01:39:19 PM »
www.twitter.com/jonassiegel/status/905846771250814976

This explains David Alter not being re-upped.

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Re: Media Thread
« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2017, 06:14:14 PM »
www.twitter.com/jonassiegel/status/905846771250814976

This explains David Alter not being re-upped.
I had a feeling this was gonna happen eventually. Solidifies my happiness of getting a subscription.

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Re: Media Thread
« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2017, 10:56:13 AM »
I seem to lack the skill to show the tweet... but Eric Duhatschek has left the Globe and Mail after 17 years there and is now also with The Athletic.

This is very cool. I signed up when it was just Mirtle. This is all great for hockey coverage.

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Re: Media Thread
« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2017, 10:58:19 AM »
I seem to lack the skill to show the tweet... but Eric Duhatschek has left the Globe and Mail after 17 years there and is now also with The Athletic.

This is very cool. I signed up when it was just Mirtle. This is all great for hockey coverage.

I got you, buddy:

www.twitter.com/TheAthleticNHL/status/906161765448376323

Usually, I copy/paste the web link of the tweet and then paste the link again swapping out the https:// for www. so people using apps/browsers that doesn't show the auto-embed have a shot at opening the link.

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Re: Media Thread
« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2017, 11:01:24 AM »
Usually, I copy/paste the web link of the tweet and then paste the link again swapping out the https:// for www. so people using apps/browsers that doesn't show the auto-embed have a shot at opening the link.

Thanks.

And now I have learned something new so my day is complete.  ;)

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« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2017, 11:16:50 AM »
Thanks.

And now I have learned something new so my day is complete.  ;)

Yeah it's Friday, so time to pack it in. 3-hour lunch 'meeting'?

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Re: Media Thread
« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2017, 11:16:50 AM »