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Re: Ranking Prospects - 2017-18
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2017, 02:56:44 PM »
https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/toronto-maple-leafs-prospects/2017/7/11/15953846/maple-leafs-first-development-camp-scrimmage-had-a-surprise-star-line

Team Free Agents pulled ahead on the backs of their top line of:
Pospisil - Rueschhoff - Tortora

Pretty sure these are Pokemon.

Edit: and if you're paying attention to these clips, the d-man getting crushed by this line, or serving up turnovers and danishes to sabotage his partner is Nicolas Mattinen (#55).
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2017, 03:20:03 PM »
https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/toronto-maple-leafs-prospects/2017/7/11/15953846/maple-leafs-first-development-camp-scrimmage-had-a-surprise-star-line

Team Free Agents pulled ahead on the backs of their top line of:
Pospisil - Rueschhoff - Tortora

Pretty sure these are Pokemon.

Edit: and if you're paying attention to these clips, the d-man getting crushed by this line, or serving up turnovers and danishes to sabotage his partner is Nicolas Mattinen (#55).

It's really incredible that Pospisil can go from pro tennis to pro hockey...what an athlete.

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Re: Ranking Prospects - 2017-18
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2017, 04:11:10 PM »
Bracco is taking this following Marner's footsteps a bit too far. He has been diagnosed with mono.


Better getting it now than getting it in the run up to the playoffs.

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Re: Ranking Prospects - 2017-18
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2017, 04:14:40 PM »
We also have confirmation from Lou that Jack Walker wasn't given a qualifying offer, so one year after he was drafted as an overager, he is a free agent. He attended Minnesota's development camp (where he's from).

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Re: Ranking Prospects - 2017-18
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2017, 04:17:26 PM »
By the way, just because it was brought up in another thread but if we were ranking our prospects right now I think pretty unquestionably the top forward prospect we have is Kapanen and our top defensive prospect, probably by a significant degree, is Liljegren. Actually, I'd say both guys are considerably secure in their #1 spots with maybe Bracco or Dermott being pretty distant seconds.

Which is to say that A) the prospect pool isn't terribly deep right now and B) if we're planning deals around prospects, those are the guys teams are going to ask for.
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2017, 04:21:39 PM »
We also have confirmation from Lou that Jack Walker wasn't given a qualifying offer, so one year after he was drafted as an overager, he is a free agent. He attended Minnesota's development camp (where he's from).

They're gonna write books about our 2016 draft one day, I'm sure of it.

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Re: Ranking Prospects - 2017-18
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2017, 04:27:45 PM »
Just to take it further to top non-NHL prospect by position

Johnsson - Brooks - Kapanen
Dermott - Liljegren
Woll

LW is a bit of a toss-up depending on how you'd measure the ranking: likelihood to make the NHL? ceiling at the NHL? Likelihood to make the Leafs under Babcock?

Along with Johnsson, I'd put Grundstrom and Timashov there as options, but both of them have a smaller body of work with the Marlies. Rychel, while currently probably better, is, I believe, pretty much at his ceiling (4th line with a pop of skill occasionally).

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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2017, 04:32:10 PM »
Rychel, while currently probably better, is, I believe, pretty much at his ceiling (4th line with a pop of skill occasionally).

He's also at an age where the application of the term prospect is debatable.
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2017, 04:39:05 PM »
He's also at an age where the application of the term prospect is debatable.

He's 22 going on 23 later this year, which is younger than I expected.

Also 1994-born: Johnsson, Rosen

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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2017, 04:46:51 PM »
He's 22 going on 23 later this year, which is younger than I expected.

I'm not sure what you were expecting of a guy who just finished his 3rd AHL season but I think 23 is right around where the idea of a ton of individual development is unlikely.
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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2017, 04:57:53 PM »

Also, re: the general weakness of the prospect pool that's obviously to be expected more or less with the team's big improvement last year being mainly driven by guys graduating from the pool itself but we should keep in mind that what the trading of 2nd and 1sts has done, as well as the team's hipster drafting of guys nobody's heard of, has meant is that they not only don't have any A guys left they really don't have any B guys either(Liljegren being the only one really).

So that's why we need to be careful about the idea of tossing in the 2018 1st rounder into trade ideas. Building up a group of those B-level prospects is going to be important for the team to compete in a post-triplet extension world. Effectively, the team made all of the picks and prospects for immediate help they can already between moves like Andersen and Boyle.
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Re: Ranking Prospects - 2017-18
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2017, 06:38:09 PM »
He's also at an age where the application of the term prospect is debatable.

He's 22 going on 23 later this year, which is younger than I expected.

Also 1994-born: Johnsson, Rosen

Yea, I thought he was easily 24. He's actually almost half a year younger than Leipsic (another 3-year AHL vet).

I think the term prospect still fits. Kadri was 22/23, coming off of his 3rd AHL stint when he broke out for the Leafs.




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Re: Ranking Prospects - 2017-18
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2017, 06:55:36 PM »
I think the term prospect still fits. Kadri was 22/23, coming off of his 3rd AHL stint when he broke out for the Leafs.

Kadri's first solid NHL year was his draft +4 year, this is going to be Rychel's draft +5 year and he's coming off a year where he was a less productive AHL player than Kadri ever was.
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« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2017, 11:52:20 PM »
Bracco is taking this following Marner's footsteps a bit too far. He has been diagnosed with mono.


Better getting it now than getting it in the run up to the playoffs.
What is up with hockey players and mono? I've never had mono nor do I know anyone who's had mono.

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« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2017, 11:53:10 PM »
We also have confirmation from Lou that Jack Walker wasn't given a qualifying offer, so one year after he was drafted as an overager, he is a free agent. He attended Minnesota's development camp (where he's from).
Why are we wasting our picks on crap? Honestly.

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