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Re: 2017-18 Marlies
« Reply #165 on: March 05, 2018, 02:01:20 PM »

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« Reply #166 on: March 06, 2018, 10:54:51 AM »
I've been eagerly waiting for his NHL debut for a while now. I have a really good feeling about him. I don't think he'll replace JvR's offense, but it sure sounds like he's a much more well-rounded player.

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« Reply #167 on: March 06, 2018, 11:26:08 AM »
Now that Gordeev's team has been eliminated from the playoffs, will he get a look with the Marlies at this stage of his development?
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« Reply #168 on: March 10, 2018, 09:50:36 AM »
Borgman scored a beauty last night against the Senators AHL team, he scored another very nice one a game or two ago
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« Reply #169 on: March 12, 2018, 11:00:31 AM »

If you're unfamiliar with him, he is the son of Bryan Marchment, and has a similar development story to goals-per-game leader Justin Holl in that he is a late, late bloomer following a less conventional path to the big leagues, identified by Dubas and brought into the fold to grow his game.

He plays a heavy North-South power-forward game, as a leftshot with a nose for the net and some decent hands in tight, elements the Leafs currently lack depth for on the roster and in the system. If his skating and strength development work out, he could be a very solid 4th line option that gets some PP looks.

The ELC (set to kick in 2018-2019) was supposed to be signed Sunday, but I don't see any signs of it being done yet.

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« Reply #170 on: March 12, 2018, 11:26:41 AM »
I like his game as well. Big guy who can score
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« Reply #171 on: March 12, 2018, 11:40:40 AM »
His stats have taken a pretty serious hit since the first month of the season, so it's tough to say if that was just a little hot streak or something real. Not sure I'd use a contract slot on him to be honest, but it won't be the end of the world if we do.

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« Reply #172 on: March 12, 2018, 11:47:09 AM »
His stats have taken a pretty serious hit since the first month of the season, so it's tough to say if that was just a little hot streak or something real. Not sure I'd use a contract slot on him to be honest, but it won't be the end of the world if we do.

I'm with you, but looking at the 2014-15-16 draft picks, I think they'll have contract room.

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Re: 2017-18 Marlies
« Reply #173 on: March 12, 2018, 11:49:33 AM »
https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2018/3/12/17105652/how-are-the-toronto-marlies-handling-a-depletion-of-depth-adam-brooks-jeremy-bracco-mason-marchment

Marlies have lost:
Travis Dermott - Leaf
Kasperi Kapanen - Leaf
Rinat Valiev - trade
Kerby Rychel - trade
Nikita Soshnikov - Leaf/trade

Gained:
Martin Marincin
Calle Rosen (sort of)
Andreas Borgman
Calvin Pickard (sort of)
Kyle Baun

The net difference to the defense corps is nominal; even though Dermott was a big part of the shutdown tandem, getting NHL defensemen in Marincin and Brogman stashed in the AHL really helps. The biggest blows are losing Kapanen, Soshnikov, and Rychel, and Aaltonen to injury.

The B-tier of forward prospects is led by Johnsson and Timashov now, with Bracco and Brooks and Marchment building up their level of contribution. The veterans (Greening, Smith) are holding the fort in the meantime. The Marlies have clinched already, so it's all about staying healthy and getting more players to step up during this power vacuum.

Dermott and Kapanen both qualify for the Calder Cup run, so they'll be a huge burst of talent come that time. Grundstrom, Korshkov, Lindgren, Dzierkals, and Piccinich might also get a look as their teams finish up their seasons.

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Re: 2017-18 Marlies
« Reply #174 on: March 12, 2018, 11:49:50 AM »
His stats have taken a pretty serious hit since the first month of the season, so it's tough to say if that was just a little hot streak or something real. Not sure I'd use a contract slot on him to be honest, but it won't be the end of the world if we do.

Broken leg will do that to ya. Bigger picture view is that this is a player the team took a flyer on, who worked like crazy last year with nominal play time, did the ECHL grind, and is set to be publicly rewarded, a la Justin Holl.

Do I think they're in the primary plan? Nope. Are they basically free NHL depth and walking, talking embedded motivators to trust the process? Yep.
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Re: 2017-18 Marlies
« Reply #175 on: March 12, 2018, 11:53:19 AM »
Broken leg will do that to ya.

It wasn't a broken leg, it was a knee injury that didn't require surgery (I believe that's the only info we have of it). And he went cold prior to that too with just 1 assist in 8 games, not including the game he got hurt in since I don't when when it happened exactly.

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« Reply #176 on: March 12, 2018, 11:58:21 AM »
Broken leg will do that to ya.

It wasn't a broken leg, it was a knee injury that didn't require surgery (I believe that's the only info we have of it). And he went cold prior to that too with just 1 assist in 8 games, not including the game he got hurt in since I don't when when it happened exactly.

You're right. I just remember it being a bad leg thing.

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Re: 2017-18 Marlies
« Reply #177 on: March 12, 2018, 02:09:04 PM »
https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2018/3/12/17105652/how-are-the-toronto-marlies-handling-a-depletion-of-depth-adam-brooks-jeremy-bracco-mason-marchment

Marlies have lost:
Travis Dermott - Leaf
Kasperi Kapanen - Leaf
Rinat Valiev - trade
Kerby Rychel - trade
Nikita Soshnikov - Leaf/trade

Gained:
Martin Marincin
Calle Rosen (sort of)
Andreas Borgman
Calvin Pickard (sort of)
Kyle Baun

The net difference to the defense corps is nominal; even though Dermott was a big part of the shutdown tandem, getting NHL defensemen in Marincin and Brogman stashed in the AHL really helps. The biggest blows are losing Kapanen, Soshnikov, and Rychel, and Aaltonen to injury.

The B-tier of forward prospects is led by Johnsson and Timashov now, with Bracco and Brooks and Marchment building up their level of contribution. The veterans (Greening, Smith) are holding the fort in the meantime. The Marlies have clinched already, so it's all about staying healthy and getting more players to step up during this power vacuum.

Dermott and Kapanen both qualify for the Calder Cup run, so they'll be a huge burst of talent come that time. Grundstrom, Korshkov, Lindgren, Dzierkals, and Piccinich might also get a look as their teams finish up their seasons.
Could Gordeev be called up, his team is out of the playoff picture although they may still have some games to be played out.
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Re: 2017-18 Marlies
« Reply #178 on: March 12, 2018, 02:51:49 PM »
Could Gordeev be called up, his team is out of the playoff picture although they may still have some games to be played out.

With CHL players, I think they only do this for players whose seasons are finished AND will not be returning to the league (age). I doubt they do this for Gordeev.

Aside from the players across the pond (Grundstrom for sure, Korshkov, Lindgren, Engvall), there are a few that will be aging out of the CHL and/or their rights will expire from Leafs control:

CHL: Keaton Middleton, Nicholas Mattinen
Elsewhere: Nolan Vesey, Vladimir Bobylyov

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Re: 2017-18 Marlies
« Reply #179 on: March 12, 2018, 03:30:49 PM »
Could Gordeev be called up, his team is out of the playoff picture although they may still have some games to be played out.

With CHL players, I think they only do this for players whose seasons are finished AND will not be returning to the league (age). I doubt they do this for Gordeev.

Aside from the players across the pond (Grundstrom for sure, Korshkov, Lindgren, Engvall), there are a few that will be aging out of the CHL and/or their rights will expire from Leafs control:

CHL: Keaton Middleton, Nicholas Mattinen
Elsewhere: Nolan Vesey, Vladimir Bobylyov

RE: CHL and elsewhere guys...I don't think any of them get offered a contract.

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Re: 2017-18 Marlies
« Reply #179 on: March 12, 2018, 03:30:49 PM »