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Offline Frank E

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Armchair GM 2017-2018
« on: June 28, 2017, 05:59:18 PM »
Thought it to be about time we started a thread for this coming season.

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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 09:07:01 AM »
Should the Leafs pursue UFA Justin Williams?  For cap space, short-term.  Has what Babcock covets in terms of leadership and experience, can still produce and would be a possible replacement for Boyle


https://editorinleaf.com/2017/06/28/toronto-maple-leafs-justin-williams/
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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2017, 10:05:46 AM »
Should the Leafs pursue UFA Justin Williams?  For cap space, short-term.  Has what Babcock covets in terms of leadership and experience, can still produce and would be a possible replacement for Boyle

Not sure how a top 6 winger is a replacement for a 3rd/4th line centre...
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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2017, 10:13:33 AM »
As mentioned earlier, sign both Marleau and Thorton for 2 years before the kids get signed. Flip JVR/Bozak/picks for best available D. Win now! If it doesn't work out we have not jeopardized not signing the kids.
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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2017, 10:36:38 AM »
Trade JVR and Marchenko or Fehr to Florida for Demers, McCann, 2nd rounder.

Trade Bozak and Marchenko or Fehr to Colorado for whatever those dummies will give you.

Sign Keith Kinkaid. With this roster we'll need a fairly budget-conscious back-up unfortunately. Maybe even just bring back McBackup for a year.

Flex your RFA-negotiation muscles and get Brown and Hyman signed for a combined $4mil at the most.

Sign Thornton for 2 years at $6mil and Marleau for 2 years at $5mil. Limited NTCs.

Marleau-Matthews-Marner
Komarov-Kadri-Brown
Hyman-Thornton-Nylander
Martin-McCann-Kapanen
Soshnikov-Leivo

Rielly-Demers
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott/Swede-Carrick
Marincin

Andersen
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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2017, 10:42:14 AM »
Trade JVR and Marchenko or Fehr to Florida for Demers, McCann, 2nd rounder.

Trade Bozak and Marchenko or Fehr to Colorado for whatever those dummies will give you.

Sign Keith Kinkaid. With this roster we'll need a fairly budget-conscious back-up unfortunately. Maybe even just bring back McBackup for a year.

Flex your RFA-negotiation muscles and get Brown and Hyman signed for a combined $4mil at the most.

Sign Thornton for 2 years at $6mil and Marleau for 2 years at $5mil. Limited NTCs.

Marleau-Matthews-Marner
Komarov-Kadri-Brown
Hyman-Thornton-Nylander
Martin-McCann-Kapanen
Soshnikov-Leivo

Rielly-Demers
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott/Swede-Carrick
Marincin

Andersen
Kinkaid

So you'd keep uncle Leo?

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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2017, 10:53:04 AM »
So you'd keep uncle Leo?

I'd say I was trying to be an armchair GM while still keeping in mind what I think our management is realistically capable of. I don't expect Komarov to be traded.

Would I personally trade him? I don't know. I didn't love his contract originally but I think he's definitely provided value for it. I think he and Kadri make a very good shut-down duo. I think that he's arguably our best defensive forward/winger. He's a little redundant because of Hyman and Martin as well on the left side, but he's clearly the best of those 3. I'd maybe look at trading him but my price would be pretty high. Otherwise see if you can re-sign him at a slightly reduced rate. His drop in offence might help facilitate that.

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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2017, 10:54:50 AM »
Oh, I forgot one thing, during one of Lou's many afternoon naps Dubas needs to take over the controls and trade Ben Smith somewhere. Anywhere. I just don't trust Babcock to not use him at some point if he's under contract with us.

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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2017, 11:30:50 AM »
I plugged that plan into Capfriendly to see if it works:



That puts us right at the cap ceiling on day 1 of the season. Which is ideal if we're going to be using LTIR anyway. Once day 1 hits we put either Horton or Lupul on LTIR, and call up an extra forward (Kapanen) and an extra defenceman (Dermott/Borgman/Rosen).

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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2017, 11:42:29 AM »
It's pretty crazy that with our LTIR'd guys ($10.55mil), cap overages ($5.37mil), retained salaries ($1.2mil), and buyouts ($2.08mil) this team still has over $19mil in dead cap space to deal with next season.
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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2017, 11:49:18 AM »
Any reasonable scenario in which we sign Marleau on a 2-year deal, trade for Demers, sign a reasonable back-up goaltender, and don't sign any of the UFA capweight will be a big win.

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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2017, 11:52:28 AM »
It's pretty crazy that with our LTIR'd guys ($10.55mil), cap overages ($5.37mil), retained salaries ($1.2mil), and buyouts ($2.08mil) this team still has over $19mil in dead cap space to deal with next season.

Yup.  I think I read that this year, in terms of useful salary, the leafs were essentially operating under the cap floor.  The ~$20 million in excess value provided by the rookies really helps out.

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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2017, 12:33:30 PM »
Any reasonable scenario in which we sign Marleau on a 2-year deal, trade for Demers, sign a reasonable back-up goaltender, and don't sign any of the UFA capweight will be a big win.

Problem is I've heard it said that Marleau has no interest in taking a pay cut from what he made last season -- $6.5M -- so that's a big no.

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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2017, 01:20:52 PM »
Problem is I've heard it said that Marleau has no interest in taking a pay cut from what he made last season -- $6.5M -- so that's a big no.

I'd be pretty stunned if anybody gave him $6.5mil. Especially on a multi-year contract. That's just not happening.

I like the guy, and as I said I'd give him $5mil, but he's had declining offensive stats for 4 seasons now. He's going to have to take a pay cut.

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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2017, 01:28:09 PM »
Flex your RFA-negotiation muscles and get Brown and Hyman signed for a combined $4mil at the most.

$4M for Brown and Hyman seems pretty realistic to me.
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Re: Armchair GM 2017-2018
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2017, 01:28:09 PM »