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« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2017, 04:44:13 PM »
I'd hate to think where the Leafs would be without Shanahan.  Doubt there would have been a Babcock behind the bench....

...nevermind.  The most important thing is glad that Shanny is on our side, and appreciative, as a Leafs fan, for all that he has done for this organization.

Hockey Fan says it the right way, but when I look at all the T.O. franchises outside of the Blue Jays we seem to think that Tim Leweke had nothing to do with the phenomenal turn around of all our teams, especially FC. When historians look back at what is happening to the Leafs, Raptors and FC it will all point back to T.L.
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« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2017, 05:21:31 PM »
I'd hate to think where the Leafs would be without Shanahan.  Doubt there would have been a Babcock behind the bench....

...nevermind.  The most important thing is glad that Shanny is on our side, and appreciative, as a Leafs fan, for all that he has done for this organization.

Hockey Fan says it the right way, but when I look at all the T.O. franchises outside of the Blue Jays we seem to think that Tim Leweke had nothing to do with the phenomenal turn around of all our teams, especially FC. When historians look back at what is happening to the Leafs, Raptors and FC it will all point back to T.L.
I never forget Leiweke. He may not have known about hockey or the Toronto market, but at least he hired the right guy to oversee it. I couldn't care less about Raptors or TFC so I have no say about those organizations.

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« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2017, 05:25:53 PM »
I'd hate to think where the Leafs would be without Shanahan.  Doubt there would have been a Babcock behind the bench....

...nevermind.  The most important thing is glad that Shanny is on our side, and appreciative, as a Leafs fan, for all that he has done for this organization.

Hockey Fan says it the right way, but when I look at all the T.O. franchises outside of the Blue Jays we seem to think that Tim Leweke had nothing to do with the phenomenal turn around of all our teams, especially FC. When historians look back at what is happening to the Leafs, Raptors and FC it will all point back to T.L.
I never forget Leiweke. He may not have known about hockey or the Toronto market, but at least he hired the right guy to oversee it. I couldn't care less about Raptors or TFC so I have no say about those organizations.
Gotta admit I am not much of a Raptors fan, but I have a soft spot for Footie and nice to see that Toronto FC have constructed such a great organization. Tim L's touch was and still is all over LA Galaxy the best MLS franchise since it started.  I do predict at some point there will be a statue of Tim somewhere in T.O. if we are smart enough to give him credit.
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Re: President Brendan Shanahan
« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2017, 06:12:31 PM »

I don't get the obsession with giving Leiweke credit but the people with it would probably better served by making the case for anything noteworthy he actually did rather than try to link any and all success the MLSE teams had after he left.

I'm not a TFC guy but he shouldn't get much credit for a Leafs rebuild he had very little to do with and "credit" for the Raptors right now probably isn't the word most people would be using.
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« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2017, 08:38:09 AM »
He hired Shanahan and Ujiri and set up the FC structure and that does deserve credit.
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Re: President Brendan Shanahan
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2017, 10:08:00 AM »
He hired Shanahan and Ujiri and set up the FC structure and that does deserve credit.

Ok. For a second let's ignore that what Ujiri's done is taken a team that was looking like it was heading for a rebuild and turned them into a team that's nowhere close to being a real contender and without a realistic avenue to become one and agree that both he and Shanahan are good at their jobs. Isn't hiring reasonably competent people to run these teams the barest minimum we should expect from the president of the organization? Hiring decent executives doesn't make him an innovative genius.

He was reasonably good at his job while here but bailed before the teams actually accomplished anything. That seems deserving of fairly muted praise which, I think, most people give him. He did alright, he didn't see things through.  How much more time do you want to spend trying to convince people his legacy here should be anything more than that?
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« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2017, 10:19:13 AM »
I am actually more impressed by what he did with FC. Not everyones favorite sport, but the Toronto fans are probably most vocal in the MLS.  Soccer was always Tim's special strength, hockey not so much.
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« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2017, 10:22:48 AM »
I am actually more impressed by what he did with FC. Not everyones favorite sport, but the Toronto fans are probably most vocal in the MLS.  Soccer was always Tim's special strength, hockey not so much.

Ok, what did he do there that was really special over and beyond hiring some competent people before leaving before they'd accomplished anything?
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Re: President Brendan Shanahan
« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2017, 11:12:20 AM »
Made the fans noisy!
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Re: President Brendan Shanahan
« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2017, 11:22:37 AM »
Made the fans noisy!

I was at the first game. Trust me, fans have been noisy.
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Re: President Brendan Shanahan
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2017, 08:16:00 PM »
Shanny: "The best kind of pressure is peer pressure."
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Re: President Brendan Shanahan
« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2017, 07:31:20 AM »
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2017/09/12/brendan-shanahan-want-kind-place-players-want-stay-era-hockey-together/

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Without naming names or pointing fingers or telling absolute stories, are you starting to sense yourself that there is a greater interest among players in playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs than two years ago?

Shanahan: I’ll tell you a story I told someone earlier today. A couple of years back, we were in the running for a free agent. I was driving my son to school and he was 12 at the time. I said, “He chose another team over us.” This was one of the top teams in the NHL. My son – 12 year olds can sometimes be so blunt – said, “Well, do you blame him?” We didn’t, at the time, have Mike Babcock or Lou Lamoriello. We ourselves were in our infancy stage. The answer is yes, having good players and having a better environment certainly makes it a safer, more attractive place for other players.


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Re: President Brendan Shanahan
« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2017, 09:04:52 AM »
Jesus. Panarin would've been great!

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Re: President Brendan Shanahan
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2017, 09:10:19 AM »
Jesus. Panarin would've been great!

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Not if his play meant we didn't finish last in 2015-16.

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« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2017, 09:14:36 AM »
Jesus. Panarin would've been great!

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Not if his play meant we didn't finish last in 2015-16.

Ahh, yes. The silver lining. That story is a neat little glimpse inside the business. The rich can get richer once a team gets over the hump and has a chance to win on a regular basis.
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Re: President Brendan Shanahan
« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2017, 09:14:36 AM »