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Re: Frederik Andersen
« Reply #135 on: December 20, 2017, 07:47:38 AM »
Would people rather have Freddie and his contract or Price and his ?

That Price contract has so much potential to look awful in the last few years on it (and that's assuming he's just having a bad season/isn't fully healthy right now).
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Re: Frederik Andersen
« Reply #136 on: January 04, 2018, 12:42:16 PM »

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« Reply #137 on: January 04, 2018, 12:57:57 PM »
Andersen fined $2000 for diving:

https://www.nhl.com/video/andersen-has-been-fined-2000/t-277350912/c-56386003

I noticed it in game, but can't say why that warrants anything supplemental.

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« Reply #138 on: January 04, 2018, 01:12:04 PM »

This really says all you need to know about how ridiculous NHL rules on diving are. If the NHL was really serious about diving guys like Quick and Smith would have multiple fines by now.

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Re: Frederik Andersen
« Reply #139 on: January 04, 2018, 01:31:18 PM »
Andersen fined $2000 for diving:

https://www.nhl.com/video/andersen-has-been-fined-2000/t-277350912/c-56386003

I noticed it in game, but can't say why that warrants anything supplemental.

Was there no contact there?  Because it looked to me that there was contact there?

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« Reply #140 on: January 04, 2018, 01:31:55 PM »
He gets mugged regularly without a call, can't blame him for trying to make it easier for the officials to spot.

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« Reply #141 on: January 04, 2018, 01:34:00 PM »
haha Freddie you beautiful bastard.
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« Reply #142 on: January 04, 2018, 01:43:26 PM »
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I see contact, and I see the slightest hints of a dive. The fine is a result of this being a second dive following a warning from the game against Carolina.
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« Reply #143 on: January 04, 2018, 01:47:51 PM »
It's embellishment, not a dive. They're different things but punished the same as far as the NHL goes.

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« Reply #144 on: January 04, 2018, 01:49:47 PM »
It's embellishment, not a dive. They're different things but punished the same as far as the NHL goes.

I mean, in this situation I'd call it both.  There's no way that minimal contact should have caused Andersen to fall down like that.  He not only dove, but he embellished whatever incidental contact there was on him.

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« Reply #145 on: January 04, 2018, 01:52:19 PM »
It's embellishment, not a dive. They're different things but punished the same as far as the NHL goes.

oh I've been using diving for falls and embellishment for when the player stays upright (fake high sticks, 'slashes').

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« Reply #146 on: January 04, 2018, 01:54:33 PM »
I mean, in this situation I'd call it both.  There's no way that minimal contact should have caused Andersen to fall down like that.  He not only dove, but he embellished whatever incidental contact there was on him.

You know what, you're right. I didn't look at it closely enough. That's 100% a dive.

I'm generally pro-embellishment, which is what I think Kadri does a lot. Embellishment, to me, is when a player reacts a little extra to a legitimate penalty. Like when he gets tripped and makes a big show if it. If you're going down anyways, why not make sure the ref spots it? In my heart of hearts I don't believe that should be a penalty. I know that's not exactly a very popular sentiment though.

In this case what Perron did to Andersen definitely wasn't a penalty so it's considered a dive.
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Re: Frederik Andersen
« Reply #147 on: January 04, 2018, 01:57:50 PM »
I mean, in this situation I'd call it both.  There's no way that minimal contact should have caused Andersen to fall down like that.  He not only dove, but he embellished whatever incidental contact there was on him.

You know what, you're right. I didn't look at it closely enough. That's 100% a dive.

I'm generally pro-embellishment, which is what I think Kadri does a lot. Embellishment, to me, is when a player reacts a little extra to a legitimate penalty. Like when he gets tripped and makes a big show if it. If you're going down anyways, why not make sure the ref spots it? In my heart of hearts I don't believe that should be a penalty. I know that's not exactly a very popular sentiment though.

In this case what Perron did to Andersen definitely wasn't a penalty so it's considered a dive.

See soccer for some of the greatest sports embellishments of all time.

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Re: Frederik Andersen
« Reply #148 on: January 04, 2018, 02:16:09 PM »
Freddy makes Greg Louganis look like an amateur chump.

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Re: Frederik Andersen
« Reply #149 on: January 04, 2018, 02:33:33 PM »
Freddy makes Greg Louganis look like an amateur chump.
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Re: Frederik Andersen
« Reply #149 on: January 04, 2018, 02:33:33 PM »