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Offline Nik the Trik

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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2016, 07:18:01 PM »
BTW, suggesting we band together when it comes to hoping our team actually can maintain the WC spot it currently occupies isn't a bad thing.

What people might hope for and what people think will happen based on looking at the numbers(or for whatever reason) are two separate subjects. The board has room for both.

Not for the team. Not for the rebuild.

I'm sure it won't come as a surprise to you that I don't agree that a WC berth, or even a serious flirtation with one, would be good for the long term goals of the team.

But why care either way? We disagree on that question. It's probably fair to say that neither of us are going to change our mind on the subject so why does it change things for you that not everyone agrees with what you think is good for the team?
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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2016, 07:57:17 PM »
I think he just means that instead of our conversations mostly focusing on when (and how hard) the Leafs will start to suck again, perhaps a new direction will emerge with posters accentuating more positives than negatives than in past years. Maybe some of our back-and-forth will shine some light on the idea that the Leafs may have genuinely turned a corner this year. Maybe, just maybe this club may be worthy of some love in our discussions on this forum? Did he say that?  I dunno. Maybe I'm reading him all wrong  ;)
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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2016, 08:41:51 PM »

The board's always had people who are positive about the club and say it's turned the corner regardless of whether or not it's true. Again, there's room for all of it.
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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2016, 10:00:17 PM »
Positive Schmositive
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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2016, 12:02:17 AM »
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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2016, 07:06:36 AM »
HAHA..."other than goals"

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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2016, 08:05:17 AM »
Positive Schmositive

Yeah. Win Schmin
Some people are just happier within themselves when things are going badly. Some psychological reflection on their own lives or some Mumbo jumbo like that. Plus the fact this club has been crap for so long, its easier and more comfortable to just believe that will continue than to put your hopes out on the line that it could change so quickly for the better.

Well, I think we're in for a real sociological experiment with Leaf fans over the next few years as our forever crappy team begins to climb the ranks of the NHL and back to respectability and beyond! How's that for a positive Monday morning message!  ;)
« Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 08:16:52 AM by RedLeaf »
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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2016, 08:37:15 AM »

Hard to imagine the Library has checked out both of its copies of Amateur Psychology for Dummies.
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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2016, 08:58:05 AM »

Hard to imagine the Library has checked out both of its copies of Amateur Psychology for Dummies.

Lol. I've got both copies. Chapter 1: Whoever smelt it...dealt it.

It's that good.
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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2016, 09:18:50 AM »
Okay here's something even those that hope for another failed season and a high draft pick will understand.

"And you call yourself a fan?! "

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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2016, 09:30:45 AM »
Okay here's something even those that hope for another failed season and a high draft pick will understand.

"And you call yourself a fan?! "

I'll admit, I don't understand. Is this a question or a statement?

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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2016, 09:39:09 AM »

Yeah, and why is it in quotation marks? Is it something someone else said? To who?
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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2016, 09:49:34 AM »
Okay here's something even those that hope for another failed season and a high draft pick will understand.

"And you call yourself a fan?! "

I'll admit, I don't understand. Is this a question or a statement?

It's partially in jest but It's mostly a legit question.

There's different ways to be a fan and most fall under multiple categories.

Pom pom waivers.

Analytical.

Critical fans, etc.

But then there's the cynical fans. That's the group I speak out against. Those that inject nothing but negative energy into the team they supposedly cheer for.

I just feel that as long as this team's rebuild is going in the direction we are all witnessing, it would good for all Leafs fans to finally do away with the cynicism.

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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2016, 10:08:04 AM »

For those of you playing at home there's a fun bit of irony happening here. Cynicism, of course, is a separate thing from pessimism. It is not a belief that bad things will happen. Cynicism, on the other hand, is a rejection of altruism as a motivating factor in people's decisions. It is questioning whether or not people do things for "the right reasons".

Now, let's get back to TBLeafer questioning if other Leafs fans are really Cynics and not sufficiently of pure intent.
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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2016, 10:14:50 AM »
I will add my 2 cents.

I would love another top 5 pick this season, preferable a D. HOWEVER I will not cheer for a loss (like last season), this team is so much more enjoyable to watch that IF they somehow manage to squeeze in the Playoffs I would love it even more.

So, I'm on the fence here. Either outcome will be good.
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Re: 2016-17 Centennial Leafs General Team Discussion
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2016, 10:14:50 AM »