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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2016, 02:51:29 PM »
True, but it doesn't explicitly state they cant...

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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2016, 02:58:13 PM »
True, but it doesn't explicitly state they cant...

Usually, to determine we understand what the hell you're referring to, we use the quote feature.

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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2016, 03:11:46 PM »
Would he be eligible for a regular conditioning stint after this one? If yes, then it makes sense as a way to have an extended stay on the Marlies.

Bettman might be forced to call shenanigans if something like that went down.
True, but it doesn't explicitly state they cant...

We generally wouldn't want to draw that kind of attention.

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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2016, 05:43:36 PM »
Draw what kind of attention? If it's permitted, then it's permitted.

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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2016, 05:47:43 PM »
True, but it doesn't explicitly state they cant...

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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2016, 06:25:30 PM »
Draw what kind of attention? If it's permitted, then it's permitted.

Permitted with special permission, basically.
And IR abuse can be construed as cap circumvention.

Backdiving contracts were permitted before too.

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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2016, 07:07:20 PM »
Draw what kind of attention? If it's permitted, then it's permitted.

Permitted with special permission, basically.
And IR abuse can be construed as cap circumvention.

Backdiving contracts were permitted before too.

The special permission is required to extend the Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception Conditioning Loan under subsection 13.9. The intention of the section is "solely for the purpose of determining whether the Player is fit to play." What I'm discussing is placing him on a Conditioning Loan per subsection 13.8. Assuming they determine him fit to play (e.g. no longer injured or ill), then why not place him on a conditioning loan? He hasn't played a game this year so it seems perfectly legit to me.

With the 13.9 BFLTIIECL (whew!), he remains on the Leafs IR and doesn't count against the roster. Once fit to play, they have to activate him. Placing him on the standard conditioning loan allows him to get some games in, but he'll now count as being on the Leafs roster. They did the same with Bernier. No IR abuse or cap circumvention here.

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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2016, 12:46:09 PM »
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Mark Masters ‏@markhmasters  8 minutes ago
Babcock says Matt Hunwick (lower body) skated today & his return is "just around the corner"

I really don't know what's going to happen here once Hunwick is healthy. I get that Babs has a thing for him but there's just no sound justification to have him in the line-up over any of the current top-6. Even Polak.

There's also going to be the issue of roster spots coming up. Both Hunwick and Leivo should be off the IR very soon so two guys are going to have to go down.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 01:00:09 PM by CarltonTheBear »

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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2016, 01:05:28 PM »
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Mark Masters ‏@markhmasters  8 minutes ago
Babcock says Matt Hunwick (lower body) skated today & his return is "just around the corner"

I really don't know what's going to happen here once Hunwick is healthy. I get that Babs has a thing for him but there's just no sound justification to have him in the line-up over any of the current top-6. Even Polak.

There's also going to be the issue of roster spots coming up. Both Hunwick and Leivo should be off the IR very soon so two guys are going to have to go down.

Or Lou takes Babs' Hunwick toy away by waiving him now that the team is winning.  Possibly Leivo as well.  I'd imagine they'd both clear, but if Leivo doesn't, I won't be shedding any tears.

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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2016, 01:12:00 PM »
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Mark Masters ‏@markhmasters  8 minutes ago
Babcock says Matt Hunwick (lower body) skated today & his return is "just around the corner"

I really don't know what's going to happen here once Hunwick is healthy. I get that Babs has a thing for him but there's just no sound justification to have him in the line-up over any of the current top-6. Even Polak.

There's also going to be the issue of roster spots coming up. Both Hunwick and Leivo should be off the IR very soon so two guys are going to have to go down.

I think they'll go back to carrying 8D so I wouldn't be surprised to Griffith and Smith back on waivers, or maybe Holland as he's been healthy scratched for a while now. I guess Leivo is a possibility too.

Or perhaps Brown, Soshnikov or Hyman get sent down as they are waiver exempt. The other waiver exempt players aren't going anywhere (Marner, Nylander, Matthews & Zaitsev)
« Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 01:22:04 PM by Deebo »

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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2016, 01:19:30 PM »
Shouldn't be a real issue, sure I'd waive Hunwick too but that's not likely. Of course an 'injury' or two could happen and temporarily alleviate the problem.
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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2016, 02:44:49 PM »
I wonder how many beach chairs Lou is lining up on Robidas Island. Sounds like a great retirement home.
Wonder if they have a shuffleboard there?
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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2016, 03:35:02 PM »
I wonder how many beach chairs Lou is lining up on Robidas Island. Sounds like a great retirement home.
Wonder if they have a shuffleboard there?

I wouldn't mind a chair on Robidas island.  Good benefits.

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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2016, 04:22:09 PM »
Ya the hourly rate is fantastic  ;D
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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2016, 05:30:34 PM »
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James Mirtle ‏@mirtle  29 minutes ago
Leafs have recalled Josh Leivo. Conditioning stint finally over. Expect some roster shuffling Monday.

Was pointless in 5 games. Played on a line with Gauthier and Kapanen in all 5 games.

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Re: Injury Thread / Lou's Corner
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2016, 05:30:34 PM »