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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #150 on: September 02, 2016, 09:05:33 AM »
PPP: 6. Nikita Zaitsev
TLN: 1. Auston Matthews

I have a hard time assessing Zaitsev since I've only seen his highlights, which are basically just him scoring from everywhere, or threading a pass for a tap in. What are his retrieval instincts like? How is his gap control through the neutral zone? Skating is good to great. Offensive instincts are quite polished already.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #151 on: September 02, 2016, 09:11:35 AM »
PPP: 6. Nikita Zaitsev
TLN: 1. Auston Matthews

From the PPP article:

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Suffice it to say, I see no reason to be worried about Zaitsev's probable output in the NHL offensively.  At the lower end he projects as a top 90 D man in the NHL (top 3) offensively. If he hits his projected totals from the past two years he would be providing top pair offense, and if he continues to develop as an NHLer he's going to be an All-Star.

I mean I'm hopeful Zaitsev turns into a legit NHLer and from all the scouting reports and stuff he sounds like a really promising player, but it seems like we're going into this season with awfully high expectations for him and his career.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #152 on: September 02, 2016, 09:36:05 AM »
PPP: 6. Nikita Zaitsev
TLN: 1. Auston Matthews

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Suffice it to say, I see no reason to be worried about Zaitsev's probable output in the NHL offensively.  At the lower end he projects as a top 90 D man in the NHL (top 3) offensively. If he hits his projected totals from the past two years he would be providing top pair offense, and if he continues to develop as an NHLer he's going to be an All-Star.

I mean I'm hopeful Zaitsev turns into a legit NHLer and from all the scouting reports and stuff he sounds like a really promising player, but it seems like we're going into this season with awfully high expectations for him and his career.

I remember stephen burtch on twitter talking about his nhl/khl comparables and that he should pretty comfortably be a top nhl point producing d-man due to his shot totals...its all analytics  ;)

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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #153 on: September 02, 2016, 09:41:06 AM »

I mean I'm hopeful Zaitsev turns into a legit NHLer and from all the scouting reports and stuff he sounds like a really promising player, but it seems like we're going into this season with awfully high expectations for him and his career.

What are you talking about?  High expectations for Leaf prospects by Leaf fans?

That's ridiculous. 

Zaitsev will probably end up being a cross between Ray Bourque and Vladimir Konstantinov...but he ain't no Nik Lidstrom.

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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #154 on: September 02, 2016, 10:29:41 AM »
TLN list complete.

PPP list down to the final 5, which, based on their ranking tendancy to favour pro experience with about half their voters, I'm guessing might be:
5. Connor Brown
4. Mitch Marner
3. William Nylander
2. Morgan Rielly
1. Auston Matthews

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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #155 on: September 03, 2016, 04:46:42 PM »

I mean I'm hopeful Zaitsev turns into a legit NHLer and from all the scouting reports and stuff he sounds like a really promising player, but it seems like we're going into this season with awfully high expectations for him and his career.

What are you talking about?  High expectations for Leaf prospects by Leaf fans?

That's ridiculous. 

Zaitsev will probably end up being a cross between Ray Bourque and Vladimir Konstantinov...but he ain't no Nik Lidstrom.
Wonder what the plan is for Connor Brown. He ripped it up in Junior, looked pretty decent in a few games with the Leafs. Nobody really seems to talk about him that much.

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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #156 on: September 03, 2016, 05:02:12 PM »
Wonder what the plan is for Connor Brown. He ripped it up in Junior, looked pretty decent in a few games with the Leafs. Nobody really seems to talk about him that much.

I get the sense that most people see him as a boom or bust type. Someone who might turn into an effective NHL scorer but could be a tweener.

If I had to guess I think he'll spend a good amount of time in the team's bottom 6.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #157 on: September 05, 2016, 09:03:32 AM »
PPP: 5. Connor Brown

His waiver exempt status will be what likely starts him in the AHL, as one of the Big 3 on the Marlies (Kapanen, Johnson). I expect two of these three to be over-ripened bananas by the deadline and will get the call.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #158 on: September 05, 2016, 10:44:27 AM »

Brown not being on the team to start the year would really be one of those things where you can't help but feel the team has maybe over-thought themselves into the roster as currently constructed. Right now there are too many guys on the team who don't figure to be in the team's long term plans and way too many guys projected to start on the Marlies that should probably be with the big club.
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« Reply #159 on: September 05, 2016, 11:37:17 AM »
True dat Nik, Brown and several of the others should be on the big team and have mentorship from JVR, Komarov and Laitch.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #160 on: September 05, 2016, 11:50:31 AM »
True dat Nik, Brown and several of the others should be on the big team and have mentorship from JVR, Komarov and Laitch.

First of all, true dat? Come on.

Second, Komarov is pretty high on my list of guys who probably shouldn't be on the roster. Laich is also albeit I think the team did well in that deal and don't mind it as much.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #161 on: September 05, 2016, 12:26:37 PM »
Some of these guys need a chance to perform at the NHL level now...can this management team make the moves to do it ? Short of giving away players with some value to create room ? Training camp should be interesting...

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« Reply #162 on: September 05, 2016, 04:26:23 PM »
I do that in honour of my son Nikos.  Come on Komarov is a favorite of Babcock and shows the way by grit and effort. And he can put the puck in the net
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #163 on: September 05, 2016, 09:43:08 PM »

There are "reasons" for lots of guys to be on the roster. But somehow we've wound up in a spot where there are 9 or 10 roster spots just among forwards for guys who've been around a while and aren't likely to be around long term. You shouldn't keep Komarov and Laich and Martin around for effectively the same purpose while we're talking about sending 22 or 23 year old prospects back to the AHL.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #164 on: September 06, 2016, 09:11:06 AM »
Agreed thats why I would love to see them move out Bozak and Lupul and perhaps trade JVR for a great pick.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #164 on: September 06, 2016, 09:11:06 AM »