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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #60 on: August 12, 2016, 11:16:39 AM »
Something I've been wondering about, but don't have the CBA know-how to sort out the legalese: How long a runway do we have on the 2016 draft picks in terms of deferring the decision to tender bona fide offers? I get the sense we have a larger proportion than usual of prospects who can develop playing against older professionals without taking up an SPC slot.

Normally, for 18 year olds out of Junior, it's two years before they re-enter the draft.

2016/7 picks and their upcoming leagues
Auston Matthews - NHL               
Yegor Korshkov - under contract with KHL until 2018               
Carl Grundstrom    - under contract with SHL until 2018
Joseph Woll - NCAA               
J.D. Greenway - NCAA
Adam Brooks - CHL (maybe AHL?)
Keaton Middleton - CHL
Vladimir Bobylev - under contract with KHL until 2018
Jack Walker - CHL (maybe AHL?)
Nicolas Mattinen - CHL
Nikolai Chebykin - MHL/KHL

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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #61 on: August 15, 2016, 09:20:15 AM »
PPP: 20. Tobias Lindberg
TLN: 15. Andrew Neilsen

I was originally pretty low on Neilsen when he was drafted in 2015, due to the knock against his skating. His numbers were also pretty weak, but that was probably more due to his team's general ineptitude. He really turned it up in this D+1 year and attributes it to the work he put into developing his first stride:
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"I worked a lot on my first step and that allowed me to get open a lot more and be able to find those shot lanes, and even finding guys on the ice was a little easier this year."

Raw speed is nice, but the game really opens up for those who know how to use their skating for separation (change of speed and direction) according to our skills consultant, Darryl Belfry.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #62 on: August 16, 2016, 09:07:34 AM »
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #63 on: August 17, 2016, 09:21:25 AM »
PPP: 18. Josh Leivo
TLN: 13. Zach Hyman

Leivo's been on the T25U25 since the first in 2012, ranking at 21, 18, 8, 15, and now 18 again. At 23, he is eligible for next year's as well, provided he is still in our system.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #64 on: August 18, 2016, 09:09:28 AM »
PPP: 17. Brendan Leipsic
TLN: 12. Brendan Leipsic

This was... unexpected.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #65 on: August 18, 2016, 08:39:34 PM »
PPP: 18 #25 Josh Leivo
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2016, 09:11:30 AM »
PPP: 16. Jeremy Bracco
TLN: 11. Jeremy Bracco

Jeremy Bracco: Mitch Marner's understudy.
Let's see where he goes with a full season in the OHL and if he can put on some more separation speed and take more shots. The vision and hands are already there.

We have alignment again, two days in a row, with the bulk of the differences between the two lists from here on out likely to rest on the inclusion of Calder-ineligibles on the PPP list (Rielly, Carrick, Marincin, Rychel, Corrado).
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #67 on: August 19, 2016, 11:03:34 AM »
Bracco was probably my favourite 2015 draft pick, aside from Marner which is too obvious. I would have been happy with him at 34 so the fact that we got him at 61 was a major coup as far as I'm concerned. He had a really good first season in the OHL, but was overshadowed by Marner's dominance. Here's hoping he has an even bigger D+2 season, especially since he's in line to play a much bigger role with Kitchener. And hopefully the US takes him to the WJCs this time.

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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #68 on: August 19, 2016, 11:33:26 AM »
So TLN's top-10 will consist of:

Matthews
Nylander
Marner
Brown
Kapanen
Johnson
Zaitsev
Soshnikov
Dermott
Timashov

(That's how I'd probably rank them)

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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2016, 11:34:29 AM »
So TLN's top-10 will consist of:

Matthews
Nylander
Marner
Brown
Kapanen
Johnson
Zaitsev
Soshnikov
Dermott
Timashov

(That's how I'd probably rank them)

Yeah...we need better defensemen.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2016, 11:37:00 AM »
Yeah...we need better defensemen.

Samuel Girard would have been #1 in my heart had we picked him.

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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #71 on: August 19, 2016, 11:39:58 AM »
Yeah...we need better defensemen.

Samuel Girard would have been #1 in my heart had we picked him.

There's a pond in my dreams where Girard and Kylington are just passing the puck back and forth, just out of reach of a straining Yegor Korshkov.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #72 on: August 19, 2016, 11:51:46 AM »
Bracco was probably my favourite 2015 draft pick, aside from Marner which is too obvious. I would have been happy with him at 34 so the fact that we got him at 61 was a major coup as far as I'm concerned. He had a really good first season in the OHL, but was overshadowed by Marner's dominance. Here's hoping he has an even bigger D+2 season, especially since he's in line to play a much bigger role with Kitchener. And hopefully the US takes him to the WJCs this time.

That Franson-Santorelli trade, man... the Leafs really squeezed every ounce of value out of that low 1st, and then some.

Franson + Santorelli --> Leipsic + [1st (24th) --> Dermott (34), Bracco (61), Dzierkals(68)] + [Olli Jokinen --> Joakim Lidstrom + 2016 6th --> Nicolas Mattinen]
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #73 on: August 19, 2016, 12:05:40 PM »
Yeah...we need better defensemen.

Samuel Girard would have been #1 in my heart had we picked him.

There's a pond in my dreams where Girard and Kylington are just passing the puck back and forth, just out of reach of a straining Yegor Korshkov.

:'(

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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #74 on: August 19, 2016, 12:10:42 PM »
BTW: Kylington is #9 on the Flames' T25U25 this year. The Habs site hasn't gotten to Girard yet (they're only at #20 as of this post).
Girard is with the Predators, and I don't think they have a T25U25.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
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