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Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« on: June 25, 2016, 12:33:12 PM »
#1        Auston Matthews
#31      Yegor Korshkov
#57      Carl Grundstrom
#62      Joseph Woll
#72      James Greenway
#92      Adam Brooks
#101    Keaton Middleton
#122    Vladimir Bobylev   
#152    Jack Walker
#179    Nicolas Mattinen
#182    Nikolai Chebykin

Thanks Herman for the great job!
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Re: Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2016, 06:49:25 PM »
 An interesting group. Hopefully there is a couple of decent NHLers in it.

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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2016, 06:52:10 PM »
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Re: Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2016, 06:54:51 PM »
Thanks WIGWAL. I missed the 2nd day of the draft. General thoughts? Seems like an odd collection of players. Lots of size, lots of older draft-eligible prospects. Passed on a lot of higher ranked guys with Korshkov.

No problem sir.

It was definitely a strange day, the Leafs seemed to be singing from a different hymn sheet than most everyone else.

I'm kinda excited to see how it works out, did they just Billy Beane the draft right under everyones nose?

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Re: Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2016, 07:15:01 PM »
Aside from Matthews, seems like a mix of good potentials and plenty of look-sees.

Korshkov(W), Woll(G), Middleton(D), Walker(W/D). They already have the size, speed, and agility with greater room for improvement.

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Re: Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2016, 07:43:41 PM »

Picks I Like: Matthews, Grundstrom

Picks I don't really like: Korshkov, Brooks

Picks I have largely no opinion on: The rest of them
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Re: Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2016, 08:07:39 PM »
Korshkov must have some solid backing from their scout in Russia, kinda reminds me of the Antropov pick in a way. Brooks at 92 seems fine to me, same for Walker at 152.
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Re: Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2016, 08:24:15 PM »
A decent stab at a Leafs prospect depth chart.



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Re: Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2016, 09:51:49 PM »
A decent stab at a Leafs prospect depth chart.



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Re: Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2016, 11:06:51 PM »
Thanks for the compile, WIGWAL

OMG! Yes! THANK YOU: Matthews
Like: Woll, Walker
Interesting: Grundstrom, Korshkov, Brooks, Mattinen
Meh: Greenway, Middleton, Bobylev, Chebykin

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Re: Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2016, 11:42:36 PM »
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrZsEIZNHAU[/youtube]

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Re: Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2016, 07:08:12 AM »
My read on the Leafs draft process:

- looks like a huge departure from last year's consistent exploitation of the market inefficiency in Size bias. skill > size is very obvious and easy to understand
- overagers/size appeared to be a focus, but I contend they've been drafting consistently for BPA both years (they picked larger overagers last year; e.g. Desrocher)
- this year, the weak draft class + even more data points on dev curve and progress momentum happened to put these who happen to be older/larger/international at the top of the BPA list at each pick.
- none of this matters if the picks can't play, but clearly the scouting department saw which players had steep upward curves based on their d/d+ years and slotted them accordingly
- benefits to their situation were also added to the BPA weighting scale
- overage = direct control over dev (Marlies), shorter dev timeline; sounds traditionally unattractive (history of rejection) so there is higher likelihood of picking who you want; ELC/SPC doesn't kick in until they're pretty much ready to drop into NHL (huge value, even for bottom six plugs)
- non-CHL picks: prospects get to stew longer without the cost of a contract while remaining under our control -- perfect situation for goalie development without kicking out an existing prospect; international picks are already playing against full-grown pro players

Why are we so meh about this draft?
- highly untraditional
- run up draft coverage always favours first year draft eligibles so those are the names we assess and attach to
- on the surface, looks like a Burke draft
- picks were even more unknown than usual

What is so exciting about this draft (outside of Matthews):
- clear analytics focus
- exploiting situations for easier cap/contract management

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Re: Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2016, 07:18:05 AM »
Thanks for your thoughts herman, definite food for thought.

I thought this roundtable from PPP was pretty good, I think they addressed a lot the reasons why fans were left feeling somewhat underwhelmed yesterday.

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/6/25/12031494/ppp-roundtable-our-thoughts-on-todays-draft-selections

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Re: Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2016, 07:41:33 AM »
My read on the Leafs draft process:

- looks like a huge departure from last year's consistent exploitation of the market inefficiency in Size bias. skill > size is very obvious and easy to understand
- overagers/size appeared to be a focus, but I contend they've been drafting consistently for BPA both years (they picked larger overagers last year; e.g. Desrocher)
- this year, the weak draft class + even more data points on dev curve and progress momentum happened to put these who happen to be older/larger/international at the top of the BPA list at each pick.
- none of this matters if the picks can't play, but clearly the scouting department saw which players had steep upward curves based on their d/d+ years and slotted them accordingly
- benefits to their situation were also added to the BPA weighting scale
- overage = direct control over dev (Marlies), shorter dev timeline; sounds traditionally unattractive (history of rejection) so there is higher likelihood of picking who you want; ELC/SPC doesn't kick in until they're pretty much ready to drop into NHL (huge value, even for bottom six plugs)
- non-CHL picks: prospects get to stew longer without the cost of a contract while remaining under our control -- perfect situation for goalie development without kicking out an existing prospect; international picks are already playing against full-grown pro players

Why are we so meh about this draft?
- highly untraditional
- run up draft coverage always favours first year draft eligibles so those are the names we assess and attach to
- on the surface, looks like a Burke draft
- picks were even more unknown than usual

What is so exciting about this draft (outside of Matthews):
- clear analytics focus
- exploiting situations for easier cap/contract management

Nice breakdown Herman!
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Re: Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2016, 07:41:33 AM »